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1/48 - McDD F-4E (early & late), EJ/EJ-Kai, F/F ICE and G Phantom II by Zoukei Mura - F-4E (early) released - F-4E AUP conversion set by Zeus Projects & Hypersonic Models


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21 minutes ago, Muzz said:

Can anyone clarify something, the images of the new release F-4EJ Kai seem to suggest the kit has a hard wing but the real aircraft has slatted wings or have I got this wrong?

The -EJ and improved -EJ Kai were both hard wing, being introduced in 1971 -- the slatted wing first flew in 1972.  The Japanese Phantoms were not retrofitted. Here's a section from Joe Baugher's web page about the slats (don't have the link right now):

 

"The most significant change at 71-0237 was the replacement of the blown leading-edge wing droops of earlier Phantoms by slats. This was done in the interest of obtaining enhanced combat maneuverability, which had been one of the Phantom's weak points. The outer leading edge slats were were driven by a hydraulic jack and terminated in a large "dogtooth" at the inboard end where the wing folding joint had once been. Immediately downstream of the dogtooth edge was a small wing fence. The inboard wing was also fitted with powered slats which terminated about three feet from the root. The inner 3 feet of the leading edge were fixed.

The first production F-4E to be fitted with slats was 71-0237, but the first to actually fly with slats was 71-0238 which made its maiden flight on February 11, 1972. The addition of these slats greatly enhanced the maneuvering performance, and the USAF decided to retrofit earlier F-4Es with these slats. The USAF ordered the first slat modification kits in April of 1972, and the first retrofitted F-4E (serial number 69-7524) flew on September 28, 1972. 304 earlier production block F-4Es were retrofitted with these slats, which included just about every surviving F-4E except for those serving with the Thunderbirds".

 

ZM will issue a slatted E  "down the line".

 

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Thanks Hopkp and Gene, so they did have a leading edge 'flap' but not slats? If that's the case, that's where I'm getting confused as I've seen photos of them with the leading edge dropping. I thought the 'hard wing' literally meant the leading edge was a fixed part of the main wing.

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Leading edge flap on a hard wing F-4EJ, basically the leading edge bends down.

https://www.airfighters.com/photo/240199/M/Japan-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4EJ-KAI-Phantom-II/17-8439/

 

Leading edge slats on a "soft" wing F-4F, the leading edge moves forward and down a bit away from the wing.

https://www.airfighters.com/photo/122723/M/Germany-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4F-Phantom-II/38-10/

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2 hours ago, Creepy Pete said:

Leading edge flap on a hard wing F-4EJ, basically the leading edge bends down.

https://www.airfighters.com/photo/240199/M/Japan-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4EJ-KAI-Phantom-II/17-8439/

 

Leading edge slats on a "soft" wing F-4F, the leading edge moves forward and down a bit away from the wing.

https://www.airfighters.com/photo/122723/M/Germany-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4F-Phantom-II/38-10/

 

That's awesome! I have never noticed this difference!

I wonder what type of wind do the Greek F-4Es have.

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2 hours ago, Creepy Pete said:

Leading edge flap on a hard wing F-4EJ, basically the leading edge bends down.

https://www.airfighters.com/photo/240199/M/Japan-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4EJ-KAI-Phantom-II/17-8439/

 

Leading edge slats on a "soft" wing F-4F, the leading edge moves forward and down a bit away from the wing.

https://www.airfighters.com/photo/122723/M/Germany-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4F-Phantom-II/38-10/

Brilliant illustration there, thanks for that!

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37 minutes ago, LUCIANO007 said:

 

That's awesome! I have never noticed this difference!

I wonder what type of wind do the Greek F-4Es have.

Greek F-4E’s are slatted as the original delivery start with the serial 72-01500. The later aircraft transferred from the Missouri ANG were made prior to the change but look to have been retrofitted with the slatted wing. I’m sure someone else will be able to confirm seeing as I only found out the difference 5 minutes ago😂!

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  • Homebee changed the title to 1/48 - McDD F-4E (early & late), EJ/EJ-Kai, F/F ICE and G Phantom II by Zoukei Mura - F-4E (early) released - F-4E AUP conversion set

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In cooperation with Hypersonic Models , Zeus Projects plan to release very soon an F-4E Phantom II AUP HAF upgrade set designed to be used with the latest F-4E Zoukei-Mura kit in 1/48!!

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