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flickr photo album of AVG P-40, lots of colour too


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album here  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/brad_smith/sets/72157625732910394/with/15367128423/

 

 

Posted on Hypescale

http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1500046973/last-1500049242/(View+All+Messages+In+This+Thread)

 

Note the "gray" underside comments already....though why planes built  for the British, in a Temperate Land Scheme, should have pale grey undersides is never  explained....

 

15367128423_7f0d604c38_b.jpgRobert T. Smith standing next to P-40 Tomahawk #91 - Nov. 23, 1941 by Brad Smith, on Flickr

 

I maybe getting some of the details wrong, but  here's some   more on US equivalent colours.

 

Note some  of @Nick Millman comments about Dupont colours in a thread on RAAF Bostons

 

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Thus for example Dupont 71-021 is likened to MAP Sky Grey and shown as a definite grey - almost Neutral Grey - in the book's profile colour key. It is not mentioned at all in the colour table. 71-021 was closer to Sky than Sky Grey and the nearest FS value is 25622. Some people keep describing it as a "greyer" version of Sky but it is more correctly a paler and cooler variant that some might perceive as slightly blue-green dependent upon illumination. It is still Munsell GY (Green Yellow) - approx 10 GY 8/1 whereas MAP Sky is 2.5 GY 7/1 - darker and greener.

Dupont 71-065 is not Dark Earth but Deep Sky Blue! Dupont Dark Earth was 71-009 and 71-035, the two paint colours, lighter and darker, originally being intended for use with the temperate and desert schemes. It is apparent that this was not strictly adhered to and that they were used interchangeably in some production circumstances. Eventually 71-009 was discontinued and 71-035 was standardised. 71-035 is not similar to FS 30118 but is closer to FS 26120 which is a little darker and more chocolate in appearance. 71-009 is very close to FS 30145.

71-013 is not close to FS 34092. That is like a washed out, greyed out, desaturated version of the colour which makes me suspect the match was made with a degraded and chalked paint surface. Dupont Dark Green is closer to FS 14056. It is darker and less olive than MAP Dark Green, being a more rich "forest" green.

 

the image  above I think is useful for showing a "forest" green and "Sky but it is more correctly a paler and cooler variant that some might perceive as slightly blue-green dependent upon illumination. It is still Munsell GY (Green Yellow) - approx 10 GY 8/1 whereas MAP Sky is 2.5 GY 7/1 - darker and greener."

 

On  the subject of US equivalent colors,  an ex RAF contract Airacobra was recovered  in Russia,I don't know what contractor Bell used, but figured it's worth adding in here.

http://sk16.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1439

 

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I just found interesting photos at http://sk16.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1439 of the discovery of the crashed VVS delivered from RAF.

It is Airacobra I BX225 from 2 giap flown by E.A. Gridyushko.
Interesting is original green-brown RAF camouflage scheme:



file.php?id=1313&mode=view

Bottom wing, note RAF roundel repainted by light blue color (AMT-7?) under the red star, which has no outline:
file.php?id=1314&mode=view
file.php?id=1318&mode=view

Upper wing - RAF roundel repainted by black (?) color, no red star:
file.php?id=1317&mode=view

 

 

 

link posted here

http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?action=post;quote=19118;topic=1714.210;num_replies=228;sesc=ab78e42ff5c0f0b24f5a3aac106fa90c

 

 

and now back to cutting the grass....  

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