Julien Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Gents can anyone help with the MK ids on 2 tanks I have to put up for the walkaround section, both these are at Bovy I understand. Thx in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Chieftain at the top & T-62 below, I think. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Going by the roadwheel spacing and headlight position, the latter looks like a Type 69: Chinese T-54/55 variant. J. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) You could well be right Jason, I was just about to edit to take a bet either way when you posted. The was something about the gun that wasn't right for a T-62 but appears right for a T-55. Steve. Edited May 12, 2017 by stevehnz Finish what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The Chieftain is somewhere between a Mk5/1 and a Mk9. You can't tell from this angle. Mks 6, 7 and 8 were re-works of Mks 2 and 3 variants to Mk5 standards. Mk9 deleted the ranging gun and Mk 10 introduced the turret spaced armour, which this vehicle doesn't have. The Iraqi tank is a Chinese Type 59: essentially a T-54 copy but different in many details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Could you just email Bovington and ask for a definitive answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Das Abteilung said: The Iraqi tank is a Chinese Type 59: essentially a T-54 copy but different in many details. Type 69 I believe, which in turn is very similar to the 59 but has a different headlight arrangement amongst other things. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayprit Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 This Chieftain carries an SP(Special Projects)number - its registered 06SP71 indicating it was in use on experimental trials and as such never saw active service with any Armoured Corps regiment. The Pearson Mine Plough has been added whilst on site at the museum, I doubt very much that it ever carried said item unless it was tasked with trials for the attachment of Plough to Chieftain Tanks. I know that these ploughs were attached to Bridgelayers in the Gulf War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Fancy taking pics and not noting what the tanks were some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Eater Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The mine plough was added recently BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Thanks for your help guys. On 5/13/2017 at 09:19, Rob G said: Could you just email Bovington and ask for a definitive answer? I could do, but often quicker to get an good answer from the guys on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 5/13/2017 at 11:20, Panzer Vor!!! said: Fancy taking pics and not noting what the tanks were some people Indeed Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I know what they were Ones Green the other sandy Sorted Ok 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centaur95 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 The second tank is a Chinese Type 69 - the headlamp clusters on the fenders are indicative of a '69 rather than a '59. There are other differences too, but they are not visible in the photo. Cheers, Centaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Thx, the Type 69 pics are now up in the walkaround section. Sent in by some bloke called Dave. Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Some googling found this out about the Cheify The record card for this Chieftain Mark 5 (as 00 FD 69) shows it was built at ROF Leeds and had a Date in Service of 27 March 1972 at Ludgershall. Then it was at the School of Electronic Engineers at Arborfield in September 1973; no further details are given. It was put on the museum books in 2011. It was 00FD69 before the SP number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 This is quite possible. The change of ERM (Equipment Registration Mark) means it was converted as a prototype for a later upgrade to a later Mark, intended for trials and probably never intended to go back into Field Army. You suggest it was originally a "vanilla" Mk5: there were also Mks 5/1, /2 and /3 and Mks 5 were later upgraded to Mks 8. I do not know if the record card would have discriminated between the Mk5 sub-marks, but you would expect so: they were different configurations after all. As pictured here it is at least a Mk 5/1 or 8/1 as it has the Muzzle Reference System fitted. If it was built as a vanilla Mk5 then I suspect it was most probably upgraded as a Mk8 sub-mark prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 13 hours ago, Julien said: Sent in by some bloke called Dave. All the best blokes are called Dave Its a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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