Consolidated PB2Y Coronado - British markings - help please

[diamant]

Hi to all,

 

I wonder if any of you could help us with photos and/or scheme color camouflage of the Consolidated PB2Y Coronado in British markings.

 

Any reference or comments will be much appreciate.

 

These are the only photos I found:on Internet.

 

https://www.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.wp.scn.ru%2Fcamms%2Far%2F1280%2Fpics%2F9_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwp.scn.ru%2Fen%2Fww2%2Fh%2F1280%2F9%2F0&docid=Y3Jcoa72BW-VSM&tbnid=qC0kvxEP_zljpM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwgrKAowCg..i&w=753&h=263&bih=593&biw=1008&q=Consolidated coronado aircraft WWII RAF&ved=0ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwgrKAowCg&iact=mrc&uact=8#spf=1

 

https://www.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.iwm.org.uk%2Fiwm%2FmediaLib%2F22%2Fmedia-22695%2Flarge.jpg%3Faction%3De&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.keypublishing.com%2Farchive%2Findex.php%2Ft-122536.html&docid=fI_ihQLL50J6gM&tbnid=sE0LsDHIRujN3M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwhKKB8wHw..i&w=800&h=605&bih=593&biw=1008&q=Consolidated coronado aircraft WWII RAF&ved=0ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwhKKB8wHw&iact=mrc&uact=8#spf=1

 

https://www.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fc1.staticflickr.com%2F5%2F4043%2F5153469903_13c4591ba3_b.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F8270787%40N07%2F5153469903&docid=d4JIQUTG1HOudM&tbnid=OvdhlUrOJ0834M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwg_KBQwFA..i&w=1024&h=615&bih=593&biw=1008&q=Consolidated coronado aircraft WWII RAF&ved=0ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwg_KBQwFA&iact=mrc&uact=8#spf=1

 

https://www.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fc1.staticflickr.com%2F6%2F5445%2F8795147992_81b1e6b616_b.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fbud_scotland%2F8795147992&docid=3-Dn9X_WyC6O7M&tbnid=gby2-OfZ3EgN1M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwgzKBIwEg..i&w=1024&h=476&bih=593&biw=1008&q=Consolidated coronado aircraft WWII RAF&ved=0ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwgzKBIwEg&iact=mrc&uact=8#spf=1

 

https://www.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fcf%2F231_Squadron_RAF_Coronado_in_Bermuda_WWII_IWM_CH_15944.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3A231_Squadron_RAF_Coronado_in_Bermuda_WWII_IWM_CH_15944.jpg&docid=wugA3WOp1Eh01M&tbnid=AYrBv4UQz1GLdM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwgqKAkwCQ..i&w=774&h=800&bih=593&biw=1008&q=Consolidated coronado aircraft WWII RAF&ved=0ahUKEwjNy53LlMXTAhXINSYKHaUqDxMQMwgqKAkwCQ&iact=mrc&uact=8#spf=1

 

My father is bilding the model right now.

 

 

 

 

Many thanks in advance

Santiago

[tonyot]

The scheme was the Temperate Sea Scheme of Dark Slate Grey and Extra Dark Sea Grey with Sky undersides. Some flew with turrets fitted but they were converted to transport configuration and used on the trans Atlantic ferry service, routing via Bermuda. 4 bladed propellers were oten fitted on the inboard engines and three bladers on the outboard engines. 

 

I think that you have found all of the available pics of RAF Coronado`s already.

 

Cheers

         Tony

[Patrick Martin]

Try Aviation News V3 #12 - RAF article

also

Air Enthusiast #57

Flying Review 1958 02

 

PM

[Edge]

Wow I had no idea the RAF used these

 

Edge

 

[Seahawk]

9 hours ago, Edge said:

Wow I had no idea the RAF used these

 

Edge

 

 

A rather reluctant evaluation after which Coastal Command sloughed them off onto Transport Command and BOAC.

 

The Air Enthusiast article referred to by Patrick has (p.19) 2 photos of JX470 at Beaumaris.  On shore so the beaching gear is murkily visible.

[occa]

 

They were only 10 AC that flew for the RAF.

Not all of them received the TSS as the photo above proves

[stevehnz]

Sorry Martin, but I'm actually seeing that as TSS, maybe somewhat faded or a slightly overexposed photo but I'm seeing DSG &EDSG though the contrast is low & its not exactly obvious. The underside could well be washed out sky, to my eye anyway.

Steve.

[occa]

I am not sure Steve, the camo looks just like here:

 

 

Here's one in fresh camo before the sea and the sun did their job:

 

 

Cheers

Martin

[stevehnz]

I agree it is not obvious but I reckon I can make out the two different TSS top side colours, the roundel is in a band of DSG but the open hatch just forward of that is in an area of EDSG, likewise the nose forward of the cockpit is mainly DSG but the tip of it is in EDSG. I had a quick play with saturation & contrast & to my eye this brought it out more clearly.  I reckon we need a referee on this one.

Steve.

[janneman36]

I am with Steve because you can still see the demarcation lines of the camo.

Take a good look at the nose and compare the float and then the aft fuselage, there is where i see clear demarcations between the colors.

On the second picture that Occa posted i don't see any comparison except for the lower camo demarcation

Edited April 28, 2017 by janneman36
info added

[occa]

Lets just agree to disagree guys  

 

I seem to recall I once saw a clearer color photo  but I admit it could well have been of a Martin PBM and not of a Coronado ...

 

 

[occa]

OK you guys were right, I found a better reproduction of the photo where it looks like TSS indeed.

 

 

Sorry for the inconveniences that my misinterpretation might have caused.

Now I'll do this ---> til it helps

[stevehnz]

No need for that Martin, it would have spoiled the fun I had fiddling with the image of there hadn't been some discussion, that image you found looks quite a lot like what I came up with.

Steve.

[occa]

12 hours ago, stevehnz said:

No need for that Martin, it would have spoiled the fun I had fiddling with the image of there hadn't been some discussion, that image you found looks quite a lot like what I came up with.

Steve.

 

Thanks Steve !

I just need to find that free picture 'adjustment' software again that I once had installed ...

Would have saved me from the embarrassment

 

Cheers

Martin

[MDriskill]

I'd like to see more of that model! That is one ambitious vac-form build, and looks lovely so far...

[stevehnz]

7 hours ago, MDriskill said:

I'd like to see more of that model! That is one ambitious vac-form build, and looks lovely so far...

Agreed, Diamante & his Dad turn out great models, I've really enjoyed their stuff over the years, instructive too & I'm sure this will be the same.

Martin, I use a freebee programme called Irfanview, its fine for a quick job like that.

Steve.

[janneman36]

Hello Martin no need to apollogise off course but it is nice to see that my eyes don't cheat me.

Love your project by the way, i have the same kit but never finished it.

This one is still on the shelf of doom 

I love to see it  in tss it must be spectacular in this finish.

 

All the best, Jan

[diamant]

Hi guys,

 

Many many thanks for all your comments and the great color photo!!!. This information was most usefull for us.

 

I will post the photos showing the progress on the models as son as possible.

 

Cheers

Santiago

[tonyot]

Here are some more RAF Coronado pics from my files;

 

Good luck with the model,....I have one planned using the Mach 2 kit;

 and this conversion set;

 

Cheers

           Tony

[diamant]

HI

Many thanks.. I realized the few photos of this type in RAF markings.

 

Here are two photos showing the progress on the model.

 

 

 

Cheers

Santiago

 

PD: I am in the middle of the process of defining the  final number of Defiant for our next proyect. The series will probably include 21 models which 10 of them are already done. I will ask same question on this matter.

[diamant]

Hi guys

 

Here are the final photos of the Consolidated PB2Y Coronado JX501. I hope you like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many thanks for your help

 

Cheers
Santiago

[JWM]

Nice result of a rare build. I would suggest to post it on Ready for Inspetion part of BM forum to have wider audience.

She deserves for it  

Regards

J-W