robgizlu Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Thanks Stuart and Kev Small progress for a week ... And construction commences on the forward cabin which has some awkward angles. It was important to get the angle of the roof correct which is a cardinal feature of this boat There's been work going on building the deck hatchways, so once the superstructure is complete, deck fitting can begin Thanks for looking Rob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Like the props/rudders, all scratch built? Not got my ref material to hand but were the shaft supports not an ' A ' frame? Wheelhouse shaping up ...... Kev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) You know how to strike paranoia into a young boy!! I have consulted all my references - "Allied Coastal Forces" -Lambert and it's not clear from any of the plans - none of which really show the transom BUT.......(damn) there is a single murky shot of a Canadian "B" with an "A " frame arrangement. Thanks Kev - I'm on it Rob Edited March 18, 2018 by robgizlu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, robgizlu said: You know how to strike paranoia into a young boy!! Tiny bit worried about that statement .... Back to the boat, I know how you seek perfection. I thought I had positive proof but it's all in the mind. What I do know ... HDML had A frame. US navy sub-chaser had A frame. Both boats about the same speed and prop shaft configuration. So I'm calling it engineering practise coupled with the two vague pics below. J. Lam Vol 1 p70 probably the pic you are on. p73 side elevation, you can see the two pads. You didn't say where the props came from Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Good progress Rob. Question: Where have you got your propellers from; scratch, spares box, resin? Where can get good props in 1/72 and 1/350 as I tend to find that the plastic kit ones are overly thick? Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, longshanks said: Back to the boat, I know how you seek perfection. I thought I had positive proof but it's all in the mind. What I do know ... HDML had A frame. US navy sub-chaser had A frame. Both boats about the same speed and prop shaft configuration. So I'm calling it engineering practise coupled with the two vague pics below. J. Lam Vol 1 p70 probably the pic you are on. p73 side elevation, you can see the two pads. You didn't say where the props came from Kev Kev - you've nailed it. I hang my head in shame. And to Stuart too; the props are from the truly dreadful Revell "British Vosper MTB" 05084 kit. It's a good point about props Stuart. I'v got non left and I'm not aware of any suppliers in either 1/72 or 1/144. It's possible that Mark Hawkins on Shapeways 3D Boats would design some. I'm contemplating scratching some for future builds though I'm uncertain how difficult that will be. Kev - have you tried? Stuart - I always file the thickness down. Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, robgizlu said: I hang my head in shame. No need of that Rob, tis one of the reasons we post to get ideas and feed back. Carry on with your excellent work I guess the easiest (???) would be to take some kits props clean them up and resin cast some. One of the guys at the club is a wiz with resin and casting. I'll have a chat on Friday. Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Now that would be Very useful Kev!! Thanks I'll have a look at what props I've got Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Hi Rob! I had a look through my small coastal forces library & web links and was surprised there were no detailed photos/drawings of the B's propellers & struts. I did find one photo (in addition to the page 70 RCN boat) that might help. This is a yacht converted from a 'B'. It shows the 'A' frame strut. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 I think the "A"s have it John That's a great pic. Thanks Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 7 hours ago, longshanks said: I guess the easiest (???) would be to take some kits props clean them up and resin cast some Equally, I would've thought that PE would be a better option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris B Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Excellent scratch biuld. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Thanks Kris. I'm curious to know whether anyone has an easy solution as to how to fabricate one of these davits? Kev - i seem to recall you made some for the Dog-boat???? Obviously - just cutting them out of 0.3mm plasticard is the obvious method......?? (though seems fraught) Thanks Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, robgizlu said: Obviously - just cutting them out of 0.3mm plasticard is the obvious method......?? (though seems fraught) Seems like the way to go, looks easy enough, just need some dimensions. Man of your calibre could knock those out. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 6:12 PM, Courageous said: Seems like the way to go, looks easy enough, just need some dimensions. Man of your calibre could knock those out. Stuart Yeah right ...... Stuart - I'll disapoint you with what follows....... So the Good stuff first Thanks to Kev and John for input.... And with all the hull bits out of the way, it's onto deck fittings These deck frames were surprisingly prominent on the "B"s and represent (I think) part of the structure that allowed quick weapon refits, rapid adaptability was part of the Fairmile B success story. And with more time on my hands yesterday, than for recent months, just to spice the day up - I "planked" one of Coastal craft's 10ft dinghies... And what a difference it makes!. And now for the tale of woe... I built up the wheelhouse, pieces all carefully measured from plans ....... The angled front "inserts" were a real trial And the honest truth is that the windows don't align, it doesn't look right and isn't very good So it's rip it off and start again Rob 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 55 minutes ago, robgizlu said: ... And the honest truth is that the windows don't align, it doesn't look right and isn't very good So it's rip it off and start again Rob I feel your pain. I remember having the same issue on my Fairmile D build. I think I ended up remaking it at least 3 times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, robgizlu said: I "planked" one of Coastal craft's 10ft dinghies... ...and how did you do that? 8 hours ago, robgizlu said: And the honest truth is that the windows don't align, it doesn't look right and isn't very good I know very little about these boats but I do think that the windows look 'odd' in some way. In this modelling malarkey, we have to have the yin and the yangs, keeps us on our toes. 'Onward and upward' Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 " A " frames look the biz 8 hours ago, robgizlu said: that allowed quick weapon refits Correct they were actually drilled and tapped to allow rapid change over, Your planked dinghy is amazing, I have a couple winging their way to your new cottage industry (I'm concerned you are spending to much time drinking/rugby ) There are a lot of little details appearing on deck, hatches, companionways etc adding to the look / feel of the boat. 8 hours ago, robgizlu said: So it's rip it off and start again Oh Yes!! Been there done that got so many T shirts PM sent Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, JohnWS said: I feel your pain. I remember having the same issue on my Fairmile D build. I think I ended up remaking it at least 3 times. Thanks John. 14 hours ago, Courageous said: ...and how did you do that? I know very little about these boats but I do think that the windows look 'odd' in some way. In this modelling malarkey, we have to have the yin and the yangs, keeps us on our toes. 'Onward and upward' Stuart Thanks Stuart. Planking is done with Tamiya masking tape cut into 1.5mm wide strips. I seal the tap with a thick brush coat of Klear to stop it peeling off 14 hours ago, longshanks said: Oh Yes!! Been there done that got so many T shirts PM sent Kev Thanks Kev !! Rob Edited March 21, 2018 by robgizlu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Looking great so far and I to feel the pain of going through part of the build and finding that it does not look right but I,am sure you will get it right keep the chin up as they say in the old films beefy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Thanks Beefy - appreciate that - I'm through the denial and anger phase! Second time round has got to be better............. Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 And take 2.............. Better angles. Thanks for looking. Rob 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Miles better Rob. I think their is some kind of optical illusion going on with those windows, all depends on the view point. Carry on good sir Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Great job buddy, she is really taking shape now Kev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Rob, you're bringing me back some bad memories. That the same problem I had with my Fairmile D. I initially assumed those windows were rectangular. The angled bulkhead & roof surfaces, & window shape took a while to sort out. Looks like you're on the right track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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