CT Modeller Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Hawker Tempest Mk.5 56 Squadron, Fassberg, Germany, 1945 Heller kit with raised panel lines removed and replaced with scribed detail. Canopy replaced with a Squadron vac form. Painted with Xtracrylix and finished with Xtradecals. I think Heller got the shape of the Tempest 5 just right. This one has been in the stash for more decades than I care to remember – built at last. Chris 66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorby Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Very nice Tempest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 A plain beautiful Tempest. The best Heller Tempest I have seen to date. Nothing more to add, except Congrats! JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Brilliant re-scribing work and an excellent result. I love the pugnacious, purposeful look of the Tempest, captured beautifully here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFlyHalf Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 It looks the part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Is that Tempest the same one as issued by Airfix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc72 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Excellent. With the rescribed panel lines and the vac-form canopy it looks like an up-to-date high-quality kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Modeller Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, John R said: Is that Tempest the same one as issued by Airfix? Hello John - yes as far as I know Airfix re-issued the Heller kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildeSau75 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Very nice build - great to see a Heller kit being done so well. Cheers, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Ford Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 A great looking build. Powerful looking beast. The Typhoon has always been a favourite looking plane of mine. Can anyone tell me in layman's terms the difference between that and the Tempest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 For sure an good looking Heller Tempest! /André Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Martin Ford said: A great looking build. Powerful looking beast. The Typhoon has always been a favourite looking plane of mine. Can anyone tell me in layman's terms the difference between that and the Tempest? Think of it that the Typhoon had wings (and rudder) that made lot of drag from the older Hawker Hurricane that it was designed to replace. The Tempest had new thinner laminar flow wings... /André 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Ford Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Andre B said: Think of it that the Typhoon had wings (and rudder) that made lot of drag from the older Hawker Hurricane that it was designed to replace. The Tempest had new thinner laminar flow wings... /André Thank you Andre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Now that is a thing of beauty! excellent re-work of the Heller kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrardandrews Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 superbly made model 😊 and a old kit as well 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Oh yes! that captures the look of the Tempest to perfection. Lovely paint job too, just how I like to see it done in this scale. Plus you give us all encouragement if you can still get decades old kits out of the stash and build them. Some of mine have pre-decimal price stickers on the boxes! Cheers John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Looks brilliant, great work Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave N Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Very nice indeed- that's lovely looking Tempest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachtwulf Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 18 hours ago, Martin Ford said: A great looking build. Powerful looking beast. The Typhoon has always been a favourite looking plane of mine. Can anyone tell me in layman's terms the difference between that and the Tempest? Martin: The Tempest saw increased performance from a substantially thinner and all together new wing than the Typhoon. Also the horizontal and vertical tail surfaces were increased in area. ( Some late Typhoons can be found with the "Tempest" horizontal Stabs ) Also of note, the fuselage was extended something like 22 inches in between the cockpit and engine cowl. These and other more subtle changes ( like spring tab ailerons ) resulted in a faster and much more maneuverable aircraft. Fast enough to be used for chasing down doodlebugs. Disclaimer: This was all regurgitated from memory so if there are any errors please feel free to correct me. Chris: Very smart looking build! I love the Tempest and I agree the Heller kit is a keeper! Nice work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Ford Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Nachtwulf said: Martin: The Tempest saw increased performance from a substantially thinner and all together new wing than the Typhoon. Also the horizontal and vertical tail surfaces were increased in area. ( Some late Typhoons can be found with the "Tempest" horizontal Stabs ) Also of note, the fuselage was extended something like 22 inches in between the cockpit and engine cowl. These and other more subtle changes ( like spring tab ailerons ) resulted in a faster and much more maneuverable aircraft. Fast enough to be used for chasing down doodlebugs. Disclaimer: This was all regurgitated from memory so if there are any errors please feel free to correct me. Chris: Very smart looking build! I love the Tempest and I agree the Heller kit is a keeper! Nice work! Thank you so much. You learn something every day. It's one of those things I've always wondered about but for some reason have never learnt. Your answer is much appreciated, thanks. I love the looks of both of them and am not sure if beautiful is a way to describe them but they are to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Nachtwulf said: Martin: The Tempest saw increased performance from a substantially thinner and all together new wing than the Typhoon. Also the horizontal and vertical tail surfaces were increased in area. ( Some late Typhoons can be found with the "Tempest" horizontal Stabs ) Also of note, the fuselage was extended something like 22 inches in between the cockpit and engine cowl. These and other more subtle changes ( like spring tab ailerons ) resulted in a faster and much more maneuverable aircraft. Fast enough to be used for chasing down doodlebugs. Disclaimer: This was all regurgitated from memory so if there are any errors please feel free to correct me. Chris: Very smart looking build! I love the Tempest and I agree the Heller kit is a keeper! Nice work! the fuselage extension was for fuel tankage, as the new thinner wing could hold less fuel.... The new wing you will note is an elliptical planform, like the Spitfire. Worth remembering the Typhoon was on the drawing board in 1937, before the Hurricane had entered service! Information on aerodynamics was still basic, as were wind tunnels. IIRC the RAE said that they though a wing of 20% chord to width would be acceptable, and would not reduce drag to make it thinner, the Hurricane wing, and I presume the Typhoon, are 19% chord/width. Mitchell, the Spitfier designer, didn't believe this, and made the Spitfire wing as thin as he could, 12% C/W IIRC. Turned out he was right... the thinner wing was better So the Tempest was a revised Typhoon with a new thin wing... it was going to be the Typhoon II but the amoun of changes got a new name. The wing was good enough to be used on the Sea Fury, minus the centre section, and with a new lighter fuselage. Great work Chris, will this be coming along to an IPMS meeting sometime? Cheers T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Modeller Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Just now, Troy Smith said: the fuselage extension was for fuel tankage, as the new thinner wing could hold less fuel.... The new wing you will note is an elliptical planform, like the Spitfire. Worth remembering the Typhoon was on the drawing board in 1937, before the Hurricane had entered service! Information on aerodynamics was still basic, as were wind tunnels. IIRC the RAE said that they though a wing of 20% chord to width would be acceptable, and would not reduce drag to make it thinner, the Hurricane wing, and I presume the Typhoon, are 19% chord/width. Mitchell, the Spitfier designer, didn't believe this, and made the Spitfire wing as thin as he could, 12% C/W IIRC. Turned out he was right... the thinner wing was better So the Tempest was a revised Typhoon with a new thin wing... it was going to be the Typhoon II but the amoun of changes got a new name. The wing was good enough to be used on the Sea Fury, minus the centre section, and with a new lighter fuselage. Great work Chris, will this be coming along to an IPMS meeting sometime? Cheers T Hello troy - yes I hope I will make the May or June meeting. I'll bring it along together with the TAP Super Connie and 748 Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannie Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) I read somewhere that the engineers at Hawker saw no aerodynamic advantage to using an elliptical planform wing at all but where pressured to do so simply because the powers-that-be (those holding the purse strings) at the Air Ministry at the time were besotted with elliptical wings - IOW the Sales dept. at Hawker driving the Engineering dept. to do things that made no real sense (same as it still happens today, especially in Software Engineering! - Speaking from personal experience). I have "Typhoon and Tempest at War" (Beamont & Reed) on my bookshelf, I think that is where I read it - I'll check the reference some time. EDIT: Forgot to say - that is a stunning build, something to be very proud of. I built the original PCM kit (1/32) kit of the Tempest about 3 years ago, it came out pretty OK but that particular kit cured me of limited-run kits (for a while at least). Edited April 16, 2017 by jannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyGair Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Superb build and finish, 'nuff said. Davey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) On 15/04/2017 at 7:30 PM, CT Modeller said: Hello John - yes as far as I know Airfix re-issued the Heller kit I thought this was the other way around. But, confirmed by Scalemates. Same kit also reissued by Smer, In-tech and Hasegawa. I've built Airfix twice, Smer once, and have Heller in my stash - it's a good one! Edited April 16, 2017 by theplasticsurgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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