Murray Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 So after some genuine Scotland Yard style investigatory work about the mystery of B-25G's in RAF colours, which can be found here, The mystery of what I think was unanimously decided as 2 the B-25G's that were given to the RAF and painted in their livery now solved, one of the pair being this ship: I plan to paint the olive drab to emulate one of the B-25's in the film Pearl Harbour, obviously with roundels instead of stars. I figured a worn out, bust up, hand-me-down B-25 would probably look something similar! Now onto the build, the kit: Nothing impressive, a tooling probably at least as twice as old as I am. I had planned to build this OOB but something about the empty cockpit bothered me so I roughed a couple bits up, all just sat in place... A few bits need tidied up, seat belts and a coat of spray filler to prime the pilot's office for some paint! I was planning on making the kit quickly, to focus on the worn paintwork. That's all for now, hopefully get the two halves joined up together tomorrow, then I can start on fixing the raised surface detail. Has anyone got any advice for this kit? Cheers! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossofiron1971 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Lovely start sir! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 the film pic looks like art being influenced by to many over pre-shaded models..... for weathering, look at the real thing, there are a fair few period colour images, a couple that should help North American Mitchell by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr and note the fabric covered control surfaces faded more, and the upper turret is pieces of perspex glued together, so no panel lines. they could get pretty mucky.... while faded, and oil splattered, note how well the paint is holding up, and this is the same plane as the top image. HTH T 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 watching this one with interest... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Love a b-25 looking forward to how this goes. i've built the kit, it's an old mould but a good kit really Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Murro,I can pull you some screenshots from a very good accurate Flightsim RAF B-25 Mk.II that I have if you want. The I/P and pedestal are very good. Edited April 11, 2017 by Miggers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 56 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: the film pic looks like art being influenced by to many over pre-shaded models..... for weathering, look at the real thing, there are a fair few period colour images, a couple that should help North American Mitchell by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr and note the fabric covered control surfaces faded more, and the upper turret is pieces of perspex glued together, so no panel lines. they could get pretty mucky.... while faded, and oil splattered, note how well the paint is holding up, and this is the same plane as the top image. HTH T Thanks for these! Really useful. Duly noted. Might shotgun it, aim for somewhere in the middle of these examples. The FR-209 was reaaaally battered as I understand it. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Miggers said: Murro,I can pull you some screenshots from a very good accurate Flightsim RAF B-25 Mk.II that I have if you want. The I/P and pedestal are very good. If its not too much trouble I'd really appreciate the photos! Thanks Each ship is so varied in the way it's ended up looking, if I do go for the heavily battered approach, I would like to end up somewhere in between the lot of them. The more imagery I can draw on the better, so if you don't mind I'd be really grateful Miggers! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I just typed Mitchell FR209 into Google and got this........ http://www.aviationphotocompany.com/p1004526858/h544C3C3C#h544c3c3c First off, it's 1950. Then it's natural metal overall and of course the nose has changed! Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Max Headroom said: I just typed Mitchell FR209 into Google and got this........ http://www.aviationphotocompany.com/p1004526858/h544C3C3C#h544c3c3c First off, it's 1950. Then it's natural metal overall and of course the nose has changed! Trevor Never a dull moment with this plane, I'm only all too aware of this plane and its extracurricular activities. It was converted back to a regular bomber after the trials with the RAF, read somewhere that it was for research purposes with putting a large calibre gun in a plane (for the Mossie) Then I forget which bomber variant it was converted to after the war. Thanks for the concern though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Fascinating. I'm looking forward to seeing how this looks in 3D; for the first time in around 70 years in Olive drab it would seem . Great subject. Not wanting to wander OT; those other pictures adjacent to Max's link of FR 209 in silver... The picture that states 'B-17 E Apron View'. They're not 'E's are they?? http://www.aviationphotocompany.com/p1004526858/h544C3C3C#h51c4d996 I'm looking at the areas of 'eye' shaped gun blisters on the aft fuselage sides. Aren't these the twenty (?) B-17 'C' that went to the RAF in 1940 and had problems with freezing guns and so on? Sorry to go OT Murrodels, I was just fascinated by all the photographs on that page, especially that of what I think (probably making a fool of myself) is all of the RAF 'Fortress I's' together? Looking forward to your work on the olive drab; a superb canvas for weathering and service effects All best regards TonyT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, TonyTiger66 said: Looking forward to your work on the olive drab; a superb canvas for weathering and service effects All best regards TonyT Cheers mate! Interesting B17's, not off topic at all! Thanks! We'll see how it turns out haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 So since last post, here's how its changed... As it stands... The cockpit... Even made some buckles, out of scale or not it was fun I decided to fill the rear of the plane with spars considering the G variant has a gondola tail so I hope it will be at least a little visible. The guns in the turret are waaaaay too close together I think, but I might try and detail the very bare gun turret. Reaaaaaally simple gun turret. Hopefully get this primed and painted tonight, more to come! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Nice looking rib detail. Cockpit coming along nicely too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Thom216 said: Nice looking rib detail. Cockpit coming along nicely too. I'm hoping the forthcoming Airfix kit will come with all of this detail! I was toying with the idea of converting the Airfix kit to a G model, the more I see of this thread the more I'm inclined to do so. Keep up the good work Murromodels! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Thom216 said: Nice looking rib detail. Cockpit coming along nicely too. Thanks man! 2 hours ago, Wez said: I'm hoping the forthcoming Airfix kit will come with all of this detail! I was toying with the idea of converting the Airfix kit to a G model Thanks! I'm sure they will, its what is putting me off going nuts with the detailing. The stuff I have done is all rough, simply hinting towards detail, nothing properly pulled from plans or anything. I don't see the point in a kit of this age as I am certain the fuselage shape is off. I was planning on going quite heavy on the riveting detail on the exterior though. Also I'm sure Airfix will do a G. If you look at a lot of their new offerings from the start of this year, they're all just reboxings/remarkings of other new tools they've done! Thanks again man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 So, since last post, I had to deal with my pesky education, but now I'm off for summer and back at this with my undivided attention. I started on the exterior finish, it's gonna take some doing to say the very least. As it stands, out of box the finish on the model looks a like this... Raised panel lines, weird blemishes on very glossy hard plastic, I imagine it would be difficult to get paint to settle well. I sanded raised details off with a couple different grits, until I found out about this little gem... With a little water, it polishes dulled plastic to a nice soft satiny finish really well! On the fabric texture of the flaps you can see how bright it was before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybolac Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I have a photo of it seen it on Facebook. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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