Biggles81 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Tony it may be the angles of the images, but I think you have Installed the Graymatter doors backwards, which means the mounting point for the wheel may be incorrect as manufactured? Cheers, Ken Ps love the change of direction to RAAF - keep it going please.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 The only problem with RAAF MK VIIIs is that there are so many good schemes to choose from. I have the Eduard Aussie Eight box with decals for about 12 aircraft and only two kits! At first glance the tail wheel doors do look odd, but as the hole for the tailwheel is at the front they must be correct. Your build speed rivals that of Ced. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Glad to see you're converting this into an VIII Tony, it's my same plan and I'll sure look with attention at your work. This kit is very tempting One small detail I've not seen mentioned: the VIII (and the VII) also had fuel tanks in the wing leading edges. To reproduce these you just need to scribe the outlines of the tanks on the upper and lower wing leading edges and scribe the refuelling points. This of course if you want 100% accuracy, it's the least visible detail of the VIII and even if you skip this your model will still look like an VIII Forgot to add: I have the same decal sheet and found that the best way to reproduce the RAAF roundels was just to cut circles of the right diameter from dark blue and white Tauromodel solid decal sheets Edited April 6, 2017 by Giorgio N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 It should look like this- can it be that Grey Matter got things backwards? It sure looks that way to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 It looks a great deal better than the II. Have they fixed the erroneous chubbiness of the fuselage on the II? It looks like it from your shots. Also, what do you think of the dihedral? The Revell publicity shot made it look a bit flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Thanks for your really helpful comments folks,........I did some head scratching myself with the Grey Matter tail wheel doors but as Bob`s excellent drawing above shows the wheel fits in the front and the bulge in the doors it towards the rear,....... I had to whittle the resin somewhat to fit as you can probably tell. There is something of an optical illusion regarding the shape of the doors too. Giorgio,.... thanks for reminding me about the wing tanks, I`ll have a go at scribing them today; I still cannot decide whether to build the model in an RAAF or RAF SEACscheme, nor which ones to choose! Cheers Tony Edited April 6, 2017 by tonyot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpiccec2010 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Hi, Just seen this thread. Thank you so much for posting, I've been looking for ANYTHING on this kit & you're the only one who has added anything upto now. The kit looks a lot like the MkII from what I can see which isn't really a bad thing. I am thinking of using one to convert to a Mk XIV which is done by Roy Brown (Iroybrownmodels on Ebay) as he uses the MkII as a basis (& I really don't fancy cutting up a Tamiya kit!). Is there a chance of you adding some pics of the decals/ colour instructions included in the kit please? Oh btw, loving the work, it looks AWESOME!!!!! Peter. P.S. Tony, I'm half way through the Fly Hurricane MkIIc, don't wait for Revell you gotta try one they're fab!! Just be careful in the fit of the cockpit..... check, check & check again! It's much better than I read about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyhunter66 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yep liking all this! chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles81 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 11 hours ago, tonyot said: Thanks for your really helpful comments folks,........I did some head scratching myself with the Grey Matter tail wheel doors but as Bob`s excellent drawing above shows the wheel fits in the front and the bulge in the doors it towards the rear,....... I had to whittle the resin somewhat to fit as you can probably tell. There is something of an optical illusion regarding the shape of the doors too. Giorgio,.... thanks for reminding me about the wing tanks, I`ll have a go at scribing them today; I still cannot decide whether to build the model in an RAAF or RAF SEACscheme, nor which ones to choose! Cheers Tony Hi Tony I agree you orientated the conversion the right way, with wheel mount forward and bulge aft, it was just from your photos that the actual doors look molded backwards by Graymatter with the slimmer pointed end forward and wide end aft. Thanks for clearing it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 2 hours ago, lpiccec2010 said: Hi, Just seen this thread. Thank you so much for posting, I've been looking for ANYTHING on this kit & you're the only one who has added anything upto now. The kit looks a lot like the MkII from what I can see which isn't really a bad thing. I am thinking of using one to convert to a Mk XIV which is done by Roy Brown (Iroybrownmodels on Ebay) as he uses the MkII as a basis (& I really don't fancy cutting up a Tamiya kit!). Is there a chance of you adding some pics of the decals/ colour instructions included in the kit please? Oh btw, loving the work, it looks AWESOME!!!!! Peter. P.S. Tony, I'm half way through the Fly Hurricane MkIIc, don't wait for Revell you gotta try one they're fab!! Just be careful in the fit of the cockpit..... check, check & check again! It's much better than I read about Cheers Peter,.....does this help?; I have a FLY Hurri, nice aren`t they? I`ve only got as far as assembling the cockpit framework so far. Will you be posting your finished Hurri,....hope so? On with the model; Having dug out my Barracuda decals out I have now decided upon which aircraft I`m going to replicate,......and yes, you guessed it,.....it is none of the above! I`ve gone for A58-517, UP-F `Have a Go Joe' as this sheet includes the correct black outlined code letters! Kagero artwork; Barracuda decals; So now that was decided it was time to get some painting done,......but as I`ve been quite sore today I`ve just cracked on with the paintwork, last night I added a couple of coats of MSG to the underisides and today cracked on with the Ocean Grey on top, both using Humbrol acrylics,....now I`m ready to start with the Dark Green tomorrow; Cheers Tony 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Roberts Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Nice job Tony! Have you also included the downward identification lights in the lower wings? These are visible in the wing plan posted earlier. Also, the downward identification light in the belly needs to be moved back towards the tail for a Mk VIII. If you have scribed the wing tanks, these have filler points - sorry, don't have plans to hand to illustrate. Cheers PR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Peter Roberts said: Nice job Tony! Have you also included the downward identification lights in the lower wings? These are visible in the wing plan posted earlier. Also, the downward identification light in the belly needs to be moved back towards the tail for a Mk VIII. If you have scribed the wing tanks, these have filler points - sorry, don't have plans to hand to illustrate. Cheers PR Cheers PR,.....No I have not added any lights under the wing yet, I`ll drill that out and glaze it later and I have not moved the light backwards as I can live with this,...... but I will be marking out the fuel tank filler points later. All the best Tony Edited April 6, 2017 by tonyot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Great thread Tony, wrong scale for me which is why I've not been here before but I'm finding lots of good info just as applicable to any other scale. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Roberts Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just had a good look at the pics you posted earlier, and the wing plan re: fuel tanks. Need to find an embarrassed emoji! Loving your work with this kit. PR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Great work as always. Just wondering though, is there a Spitfire aftermarket decal set you do not possess? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Hiya Folks, Glad that you are enjoying my ramblings,...... and that you can see some sense behind them (because I am struggling!)! 12 hours ago, stevehnz said: Great thread Tony, wrong scale for me which is why I've not been here before but I'm finding lots of good info just as applicable to any other scale. Steve. Always glad to have you aboard Steve, I really appreciate your views. 9 hours ago, Peter Roberts said: Just had a good look at the pics you posted earlier, and the wing plan re: fuel tanks. Need to find an embarrassed emoji! Loving your work with this kit. PR No need to be embarrassed Peter,.....I appreciate constructive criticism mate. 9 hours ago, georgeusa said: Great work as always. Just wondering though, is there a Spitfire aftermarket decal set you do not possess? Haha,....George,.....what are you like! Yes I`ve got a few bits and bats snaffled away,..... the retractable tailwheel was intended for a PCM kit. Right,..... got the first coat of Dark Green applied this morning. The spinner is white as it was being pre painted for one of the other subjects that I was `dabbling with but it needs to be repainted. The decal instructions and Aussie Eight book both say that the spinner should be light blue but in the period pics it looks to be darker and it has been described previously as being green,.....so I`m a bit confused as to what to do and seeking devine ntervention,.....otherwise known in Aussie Spitfire circles as Peter Malone! I`ve also started to pre painted the undercarriage legs, wing flaps, radiator doors etc and also the cockpit armour plating and Barracuda resin seat. Speaking of the armour plating, the triangular plate behind the pilots seat is provided with a padded headrest but this was not fitted to most late Spitfires so it was removed, the mounting lug was removed and sanded flat too. Hopefully I`ll get a few more coats of green on today and then it is time to tackle the weathered white trim,......rattle can white may be the answer here! I`ll be adding the RAF fin flashes before I do so as these can be made out underneath the white which is especially worn away on the tailplane where groundcrew had sat while the aircraft was being ground run. Cheers for now, Tony Cheers Tony Edited April 7, 2017 by tonyot 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 you're making this kit look like the Tamiya option! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The armoured back plate is not hard to make, rather simple actually. Funny they did not include it. Seeing everyone else has done war time Mk IX it probably why Revell did post war wings with the bugle for the bigger tires. Sanding it off is easier then trying to replicate or find an aftermarket part. Other variants coming? Mk XVI perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just noticed the instructions you posted....CRAP! l just order that silver spitfire decals for the one that is coming and l didn't need them...Oh well. l have to check my references but l am pretty sure the wheel well bulge is not present on that particular plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 I`ve just posted a few underside pics to help with reference for the Mk.VIII, so thanks for bringing up the downwards pointing lights Peter, I`ll be adding a slipper tank from the Tamiya kit to my model but the kit light can still can be seen, so I`ll tackle this after I`ve removed the masking for the paint job.; I`m still trying to confirm whether there were two wing lights or just the one,..... so I`ll be checking some more books after watching Auf Wiedershen Pet! Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Another update; A few more coats of Dark Green have been applied and the painted out areas of roundel, serial and the Sky fuselage band have been replicated using Pollyscale Extra Dark Sea Grey and Pactra Dark Green. The area for the yellow leading edges has been masked off ready to apply Humbrol Trainer Yellow and then I`ll add the weathered white tailplane and wing leading edges,...... hopefully I`ll manage to weather them OK but we`ll cross that bridge when I get to it! Cheers Tony 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I like your choice, one of my (1/48 ) MK VIIIs will definitely have a white tail. I have the Neil Robonson's Spitfire Special at home which has a section on Aussi Spitfires, so when I return in a couple of days I'll have a look to see if there's anything helpful. Lookig forward to the weathering. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Roberts Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Hi Tony Two downward lights under wings, one each side. You can just make them out on the Tamiya instructions, outboard of the roundels. You're inspiring me to start my Tamiya kit, great work, really looks the part! PR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffajake Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It's certainly looking the part! I hope you had better luck spraying your leading edge strips than I did on my last attempt. What a nightmare! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Roberts Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Pretty sure green is the consensus of opinion for the spinner, Tony, but Pete M is the expert here, as you suggest. I thought I had access to info to confirm for you; I'm sure there was a post about this plane, but my Google foo is letting me down and I'm away from home just now. May be a post on Aussie Modeller (Pete visits there too, and there are other RAAF a/c experts on board) if you are not in too much of a hurry. (Given your build is going so quickly) PR Edited April 7, 2017 by Peter Roberts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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