Chillidragon Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Prayers have been said, and now; my condolences and regards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 My condolences too Tony. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Tony, gutted to hear that your family has had to suffer a youngster bereavement We've had that and it is awful Take your time, get back when you are ready, chat if you like any time pace pal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Hello Tony, Really sad to hear such a bad new. All my condolences my friend. Loosing a youngster is always a blow in the face, and I alas know what I mean. Add my prayers to the ones of all your friends here on BM. As I, like Bill, have been through such a harsh time, feel free to PM me if you feel the need for it. Sincerely. CC 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 So sorry to hear the bad news Tony, my thoughts are with you and yours at this difficult time. Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 My deepest condolences 😪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Our thoughts are with you Tony. always here to help if we can, take care and a safe journey home dear boy. Edited April 11, 2018 by The Spadgent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Sorry to hear your news Tony. Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Likewise, definitely. Not nice. Take your time and hang in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Please add my condolences to those of the others Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmat Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Very sorry to hear. My thoughts and prayers for you and your loved ones.. Grant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Sad news, please accept my condolences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Keith, Benedikt, Ced, Giorgio, Simon & Lady R, Chillidragon, Tomo, Bill, CC, Ian, Corsairfoxfouruncle, Johnny, Martian, Crisp, Roger, Nigel: it needs to be said - despite the obviousness of it - but you're a damn fine bunch and I'm grateful for your thoughts. I don't like to let my own circumstances intrude here when so many others have experienced losses of their own, but disappearing so suddenly on you required (I felt) some explanation. As mundane as it might sound, keeping the build going has provided a therapeutic ritual of sorts over the last few weeks - something practical and external to periodically absorb emotion and attention turned out a helpful mechanism. Not being up to really posting I've a backlog of images that I'll put up over the next few days, hopefully recollecting why I did certain things at the time. First installment to follow.... 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 When last we met around the cauldron I believe I'd just finished midnighting the internals with some black Aclad primer; subsequent to that, some necessary parts had the odd blast of Alclad steel for variety's sake (and also partly 'to get a feel' for the substantial amount of metalworking that's going to be needed on the outside of Pelican 9 later on): Those long recovery poles in the centre of the above shot may look bent and indeed they are, to reproduce the curved 'splay' you see when they were deployed on recovery operations: The reason for the curvature is (from various crew accounts) a mixture of the flexible poles being deployed into the slipstream allied to the regular capture forces that bent (and in some instances snapped completely!) them over repeated recovery cycles. The Heath Robinson elegant method I used to reproduce this effect was to tape the poles together and bend them by hand around the curved pillar of my external monitor: Two items that I'd so far overlooked from the snag list were to make the removable plate that is used to cover the central cable deck prior to recovery, and the steel drum into which the Corona film capsule was placed for transit to the processing labs: Also remembering to 'pre-fold' the webbing for the jump seats to match where they'll need to hang off the side of the fuslage later: Now, much in the mode of EDSG brawls learned discussions: what green effects - and I deliberately use the word 'effects' rather than single colour, given the range of hues that ended up on actual aircraft: I'm not trusting to museum restoration as a decisive arbiter in such matters as from looking through as many colour interior references as I could find, there are a number of issues: 1. Underlying chromate primer visible through the olive main coat due to thinnner/clumsier spraying in some areas and erosion of top coat in others. 2. Variation in olive green/drab pigment of paint batches in different times and places. 3. Photographic contamination - look at the above shot on the right -the yellowish hues around the light over the man's back indicates a tungsten light shot with a daylight colour temperature. Any nearby greens are then similarly shifted to the yellower end of the spectrum, giving false values. To that list can also add additional factors such as over/underexposure of various regions and subsequent brightness/contrast/gamma adjustments done in image manipulation packages, just to muddy the waters further.... The above information is clearer if you look at the varying RGB values for a range of green sampled from various C-119 interiors: I think you'll agree that there is significant enough variation in the raw figures to resist authoritative statements reproducing a single hue? Around the edge I'd just dabbed on some Tamiya variations as a way of working out what to do. More to follow in a bit.... 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 After staring at greens until I thought I'd go a bit mad, the net result was that I decided to go for a mixture of zinc chromate undercoating overlaid with olive drab variation. In order to introduce some further visual interest to colours across surfaces, I used some scrap etch runners as irregular masking, for a (hopefully subtle) rectilinear feel to the final result. Here's the first pass of chromate then: The scrap etch used: These bits were just rotated and overlaid in random fashion to avoid any regularity. If memory serves these were the remains of the ghastly Airwaves etch for the Meteor NF 14 - at last they have found redemption! Seating and other sundry green areas such as the BT doors also received a light chromating: Then it was on with slowly building up variation in the top layers with something darker and more olive, using the etch again: Hopefully by now you get the idea - building up colour variation on a rectilinear basis with the etch masks all around the belly of the beast: It looks still quite crude in this stage - especially with Pacman chomping along the port wall: One thing you have to bear in mind is of course not making that top layer too dark (or too uniform), in allowance for the darkening effects of the varnish coat and any subsequent toning that need to be done: After about three passes using this method it all starts to quieten down nicely in terms of colour contrasts: Similar for the fittings: After the first few minutes the process becomes quite absorbing and organic in terms of building up effects, and after about 45 minutes we arrived at this point where I considered it time to draw this stage to a close: That's it for tonight chaps. Tomorrow it's 'Adventures in Yellow' and other sundry assaults upon the retina. Tony 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 O u t standing! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, perdu said: O u t standing! Agreed 100%! Looking forward to more of this painting magic To be completely honest, I'm also very intrigued by the early green stages - I suppose they would be appropriate for a dismantled/abandoned aircraft .. Ciao Edited April 12, 2018 by giemme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Interior looks great, I'll make a note of that technique if you don't mind? Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, giemme said: I'm also very intrigued by the early green stages - I suppose they would be appropriate for a dismantled/abandoned aircraft .. I was thinking exactly the same Giorgio! That all looks really good Tony, I do like the innovative painting techniques you keep coming up with - great stuff! Keith 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Wow Tony, this build is not only a great thread in regards scratching. But also an education on painting techniques too. Simon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) For this one just in German: Hallo Tony. Großartig!! Ich liebe diese Art und Weise, wie Du einen kleinen Bausatz in einen prachtvolles Schmuckstück verwandelst oder dieses kannst. Meinen größten Respekt dafür, wie auch für die Genauigkeit bei der Farbwahl für den Laderaum hier!! Sehr schöne Arbeit, wie sonst auch!! Viele Grüße Benedikt Edited April 12, 2018 by bbudde 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Some lovely work there Tony, as always! And it’s good to see this labour of love and detail moving along. sorry it’s late, but I would like to pass on my condolences to you and the family for your loss, hope you’re all holding up ok. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bowcat Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Mr Baron, sir. I've spent the last few days reading through this entire thread. You sir are awesome. I was sorry to read of your loss, my condolences to you and you family. Regards, Bowcat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Wow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Interesting and effective technique. I've not seen anything like that before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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