longshanks Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I don't see a problem Look at Al Gunthwaite sites for inspiration/colours https://www.gunthwaite.co.uk/Range.html Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 8/24/2018 at 9:44 AM, robgizlu said: Thanks fellas. Al - keep them coming - they are excellent. Modelling Coastal Craft in 1/72 would be considerably less rewarding withou them! I'm going to try and add some resin "Mae Wests" to a couple to imitate some of the figures from the D-day pics that appear in the Fairmile B blog. That's unless you want to do some!!!!!? Rob Rob Figures with life jackets/buoyancy aids will be done (but not in the timescale of your current projects)! On 8/24/2018 at 1:12 PM, Courageous said: As a thought, do you think I could use the RN Officer figure and pass him off as an RAF Officer for my ASRL? Stuart Stuart Straightforward answer - yes. GM72-004: British and Commonwealth Sailors, Officers (Working Dress 5A) (1) - but perhaps not the chap with the beard And GM72-021: Airmen (Early WWII) were designed with half an eye on the ASRL I'm sure I must have mentioned this before but the film "For Those in Peril" is a great source of reference for boats and crew - filmed in 1943 (released in 1944) Al 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) I do like that hull weathering: thoroughly convincing. Excellent observation, let alone artistry. My only other observation is that the walked-on parts of the decks could perhaps take a little more weathering: from the photos they look a bit clean, out-of-step with the hull sides. Edited August 26, 2018 by Seahawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Hi Rob, I'm really enjoying and learning from this build. I recently picked up the Air Sea Rescue Launch plus the Airfix Vosper (started as you know), and funnily enough the Avon show had me picking up a further maritime prize or two! When the Vosper is done, I would like to convert the launch into one of these MGB's at some stage. Very inspirational stuff! Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Al Gunthwaite said: I'm sure I must have mentioned this before but the film "For Those in Peril" is a great source of reference for boats and crew - filmed in 1943 (released in 1944) Al I hadn't seen that bit of film before. thanks! Wish I'd had it when building my Airfix ASR boat! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 7 hours ago, seadog said: I hadn't seen that bit of film before. thanks! Wish I'd had it when building my Airfix ASR boat! Have you watched the youtube clip? If so you need to watch the whole feature film which is over an hour long - Includes harbour launches and MTB/MGBs in harbour. Al 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Thanks to all. On 8/26/2018 at 8:54 AM, Seahawk said: My only other observation is that the walked-on parts of the decks could perhaps take a little more weathering: from the photos they look a bit clean, out-of-step with the hull sides. Thanks Seahawk. I've rather obsessed about this. The rear deck is dirty under the Oerlikon, but it's that old chestnut regards weathering - just how far do you go? On balance I think you are right but it's rigged now so too late The Fairmile B will definitely have a more weathered deck.. 14 hours ago, Al Gunthwaite said: Have you watched the youtube clip? If so you need to watch the whole feature film which is over an hour long - Includes harbour launches and MTB/MGBs in harbour. Al Al - pleased to hear about more figures with Mae Wests etc (personally feel we can't have enough of your work!!) but understand about time lines. Thanks for the tip about the whole film of "For those in peril". I'd seen the clip before but if you recommend the whole then as we speak Amazon will be shipping me one. Another You Tube clip that I thought was inspirational was "The Broad Fourteens", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG6wV_ABdD8 Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Close Down thread To my shame this build started on May 15th 2016 on the now Defunct 'Plastic Armour'. After having done the ASR launch I was keen to sort out the toe rails which I did here to my satisfaction. Base kit - Airfix RAF Air Sea Rescue (BPBCo 63 ft "Whaleback") launch. Venerable and flawed (Those accused Scramble nets) but still a great kit even after 39 years! Coastal Craft accessories: Indispensible to anyone building Coastal craft in 1/72. 72001 Boat Hooks 72002 Carley Floats 72008 Depth charges & racks 72012 Twin Vickers turret 72021 Twin 0.303in Lewis Gun set 72023 Ready Ammunition lockers 2 72032 Deck Fittings 72038 Single Oerlikon on hand raising mount Coastal Craft Models Figures: Gunthwaite miniatures - Once again, indispensible for marine 1/72 WW2 modelling! And they give that all-important sense of scale. GM 72/007 GM 72/017 Paints AK 507C Akan - White and B15 Weathering with Mig oils using "oil-dot". Rigging Uschi standard Rope coils are lead wire painted with Lifecolor hemp and then washed with Mig neutral grey or dark washes Base plate - Name It - Fab service and effect and really very reasonably priced More pics on RFI Thanks for the support and encouragment Rob Edited August 27, 2018 by robgizlu 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 A Grand Job! Al 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 It is fantastic. Great inspiration for me to start building its twin, Polish S-2! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 Thanks Grze! S-2 was previously MGB 44 and as far as I am aware nearly identical to MGB 40 Looking forward to seeing your build Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I've got new book about Polish MTBs S1-S4 yesterday! Polish S2 and S3 were MGB 44 and MGB 45, initially with double turrets each with double 7,7 Lewis (book cover photo), then (autumn 1941) modified into single-turret version armed with double 12,7 gun (like your model) and additional depth-charges. Before modification: After modification: S4 is tempting too, but it was MGB 113 of 71' 6" type, the kit is much more expensive. S1 was custom built for Polish Navy already before the war in White shipyard (Cowes) - White 75 type. It is possible that it was the first modern motor gun boat ever. Initial armament was designed as two torpedo tubes, 40 mm Bofors automatic gun and double maxim machine-gun, but it never got the Bofors and torpedos. S2 had stunning commander Lt. Eugeniusz Wciślicki (called "Whisky" by British friends) - 21st June 1942 alone(!) fought against 6(!) German E-Boats and won the battle, forcing Germans to retreat and damaging two of them. He was decorated with Polish Virtuti Militari Cross and British DSC for that. Edited December 5, 2018 by GrzeM 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 hours ago, GrzeM said: Polish S2 and S3 were MGB 44 and MGB 45 Well get on with it man, that camouflage on the book cover looks interesting. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 7 hours ago, GrzeM said: I've got new book about Polish MTBs S1-S4 yesterday! Thanks for the heads-up GrzeM, I wasn't aware of that! Now ordered... In retirement (still a long way off!) I want to do research on the 3rd flotilla operating out of Fowey because they had interesting camouflage. Al 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Courageous said: Well get on with it man, that camouflage on the book cover looks interesting. Stuart Damn, turns out it's not easy to find the kit these days! Did Airfix discontinued it??? BTW, I've found online photo of very fine model of S3, of course converted from Airfix Rescue Launch: On the FineScale Modeler site, model built by Mirosław Golik from Biała Podlaska, Poland. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, GrzeM said: Damn, turns out it's not easy to find the kit these days! Did Airfix discontinued it??? BTW, I've found online photo of very fine model of S3, of course converted from Airfix Rescue Launch: On the FineScale Modeler site, model built by Mirosław Golik from Biała Podlaska, Poland. Hi Grze Yes sadly discontinued - along with all of Airfix's 1/72 boats. Some still available on E-bay but getting harder to get hold of. That S3 is very nice - a very clean and crisp build. Cheers Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) Got mine Airfix RAF Rescue Launch finally - and for a good price! I think I'll do the S2 (44) in this camouflage from the cover of the Polish book. It is in earlier configuration, with two turrets armed with double Lewises. Does the "Coastal Craft British Power Boat Company Vol 2" book include drawings for that configuration? What do you think about camuflage colours? Blue fields over white, with grey horizontal stripes? This is intrepretation of one of the Polish modelers - 1/100 cardboard model: My second question is about 20mm cannon base - was it round, like on the Vosper MTBs? On this model it is apparently smalle than on the photo... Edited April 28, 2019 by GrzeM 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 Grze Well done for finding one! That's a super model of 44 - intriguing colour scheme! Looking forwards to your build - hope you share it here Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I'm definitely keen to follow this, I've a kit set aside for one of these or similar. Steve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I have another question about the MGB44/S2 - how long was the "cockpit" opening in the superstructure roof? RAF ASR Launch had no opening at all, modified MGBs with single turret had quite small opening (as the rest of the top was "used" by the central turret), but the unmodified, earlier version with two side turrets might have had this "cockpit" quite long, may be spreading up to the gun turrets! Look at the photo - the black silhouette of the seaman near the turret seem to be INSIDE of the cockpit!: Also on this photo there seem to be man INSIDE close to the turret: And this photo, showing S-3(MGB 45) crew seen from the 20mm cannon emplacement: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hi Grze; There's a number of drawings of the BPB Co 63' MGB's in the book 'Coastal Craft History Volume 2 - British Power Boat Company', ISBN 978-0-9930934-1-8., including a side view drawing of MGB 44. It appears from the drawings that all the 63' MGB's had the same size bridge opening (approx. 3 1/4 ft. by 2 1/2 ft. ), including both the MGB's with twin turrets & the MGB's having the central turret - see drawing at this link . Hope this helps. John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) Thank you John for the explanation and the drawing! So what can we see on the photo of the seamen taken from the rear of the boat??? For me it is a real riddle. Does the book include top view drawings or pictures of the earlier, two-turret versions? Edited November 1, 2019 by GrzeM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 Hi Grze I think John has covered the Bridge cockpit "opening" - there's a pic at the start of the blog. As to the object in the picture of the seamen, it's the 20mm Oerlikon gun guard rail which prevented the gun accidentally being trained forwards. The book does cover the top view 2 turret version and it's identical to that of MGB40 It's really worth grabbing a copy of "Coastal Craft history Volume 2 - British Power Boat Company" HTH Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Hi Rob! But where the seamen on the photo seat? Aren't they somewhere between the mast/turrets and the gun guard rail? And obviously they seat inside some rectangular "pit". Could it be something like this (I know the this boat has bean heavily modified for civil use): The book you mention is very interesting, but it is not easy to get it here in Poland. Thanks for your advices! Grzegorz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 Hi Gregor I think that's exactly where they are sitting, on the sloping rear coach-roof looking aft towards the gun and the photographer is shooting from just in front of the Oerlikon. As to the book - it's on Ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coastal-Craft-History-Volume-2-British-Power-Boat-Company-New-Book/133053839594?epid=226898385&hash=item1efaa078ea:g:i3oAAOSwT5tWJkB9 Postage shouldn't be too expensive to Poland - you won't be disappointed! Regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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