corsaircorp Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Hello dears, I'm studying the battle of Midway and still found this battle fascinating. I will reproduce the beginning of the Avenger, quite desastruous, in fact ! So I must do the 8-T-1, the sole Survivor, wich is the choice ?? Conversion of the Accurate/Italeri, quite easy... or not foolish enough.. Improving the old Monogram one ?? Sound better ! Let's see She is collecting dust in my stock since the end of the '80 This one, will drag her sister up, why not making 2 kits on the same time, business as usual to me ! Dimensions are right, even for the toy wich would became a kit, nice shot monogram ! Now, I start thinking about this mash up, yek yek yek ! This one is not finished tomorrow for sure... Did I tell you that I like challenges ?? See you later, Take care of yourself. Sincerely. Corsaircorp 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprueloose Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Crazy man! Looking forward to your valiant struggle! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 One nice thing about the Monogram kit is it incorporated the "trough" for the original -1 with the off-center mounted .30 caliber gun. Also its clear parts were good, considering its age. I've seen some nice models done from that kit, admittedly with a LOT of extra TLC. david 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 19 hours ago, David H said: One nice thing about the Monogram kit is it incorporated the "trough" for the original -1 with the off-center mounted .30 caliber gun. Also its clear parts were good, considering its age. I've seen some nice models done from that kit, admittedly with a LOT of extra TLC. david Hello David, Obviously, that need a lot of work, but whatever, the dimensions are right, I have a lot of these oldies, but still like it. Shape was good too, except for the brits Aircraft, Typhoon, need a little bit of work, but the Mossie is another story... These ones will not be finished next month for sure, but will try it. You're right about the .30, and, in that way, Monogram is alone, all the other brand have missed the point Thank for watching. Sincerely. Corsaircorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Good luck with this one,.....I did consider it myself once using the Monogram kit with a pair of left over Acc. Min. wings after I`d used folded resin wings on this kit instead,...... but I decided against it as too much work,...... I really wish you well. Cheers Tony 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Time to restart the 2 ladies, since my Spitery is cooling down Well.... Almost And now I get a good Wright 2600 !! Sincerely. Corsaircorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 02/03/2017 at 11:01 PM, tonyot said: Good luck with this one,.....I did consider it myself once using the Monogram kit with a pair of left over Acc. Min. wings after I`d used folded resin wings on this kit instead,...... but I decided against it as too much work,...... I really wish you well. Cheers Tony Ooh, folded resin Avenger wings; that sounds interesting. Don’t suppose you can remember who made them, Tony? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Daft ideas? You? Surely not CC! Martian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Ooh, folded resin Avenger wings; that sounds interesting. Don’t suppose you can remember who made them, Tony? Company called Wolfpack Models if I remember correctly. Found some here; https://www.victorymodels.com/products/wolfpack-1-48-resin-tbf-tbm-avenger-wing-fold-set-for-acc-miniatures-ww48005?variant=8756552451 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 39 minutes ago, tonyot said: Company called Wolfpack Models if I remember correctly. Found some here; https://www.victorymodels.com/products/wolfpack-1-48-resin-tbf-tbm-avenger-wing-fold-set-for-acc-miniatures-ww48005?variant=8756552451 Raaaaah another temptation !! Thank you, I will consider that one ! Sincerely. CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hello Dears Stuffed sides by sides, it look pretty good for an old kit... Some fixing has to be done but otherwise, it's good The creation of an interior must start somewhere... Soooo Here we go on ! I also started boring the exhaust and the .30 on the cowling of the TBF-1 Still hesitating between a FAA Tarpon and a New Zealander one... Don't know yet, A FAA one with Overlord stripes is tempting however, I dislike these stripes... Really hesitating !! have a good modelling time. CC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hello Dears, I did'nt forget my weird ideas !! Sooooo, This blue thing of a floor will look like that other grey thing That promise to be funny !! I started to glue the wing on a side of the fuselage !! That way I can improve the floor and avoid any annoiances when the time to button it up will come… one day…. Creating a pilot head rest, then I will search in my resin parts or do new ones... Here we go, I will install the .30 on the nose too, The Itaccurate gave me 2 dashboards !! Hooray ! One problem sorted !! Have a really good Week end and Don't forget modelling !! Sincerely. CC 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Good start CC! Looks good! Håkan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Note that part of the cockpit floor is formed by the upper surface of the wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Very interesting project CC will tag along of I may. I am not trying to influence you but FAW all the way !!! I have a Hobbyboss Avenger in the stash which I may have to dig out and have a look at now. Great work so far fella. All the best Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Nice work, I have a soft spot for this work horse after making the 1/72 Academy Minicraft many many years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Believe it or not, I've been toying with the same idea for some time now.....I love the tiny raised rivets of the Monogram kit, and planned to use some leftover parts from a donor HobbyBoss Avenger wich saw better days... Removing all those toyish features from the Monogram kit is the part that really wories me, because some raisd rivets can get lost as well.... Anyway, I think that both, Accurate Miniatures and Hobby Boss, forgot to put the forward firing machine gun over the nose, just a blanking plate is shown there, and I'm not sure if that's right for a TBF1. A friend of mine, who is a very good modeller and also an Avenger fan, threw up his hands and told me to forget about that, just build the Hobby Boss kit and keep the Monogram as a "blast from the past" souvenir.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 59 minutes ago, Artie said: Believe it or not, I've been toying with the same idea for some time now.....I love the tiny raised rivets of the Monogram kit, and planned to use some leftover parts from a donor HobbyBoss Avenger wich saw better days... Removing all those toyish features from the Monogram kit is the part that really wories me, because some raisd rivets can get lost as well.... Anyway, I think that both, Accurate Miniatures and Hobby Boss, forgot to put the forward firing machine gun over the nose, just a blanking plate is shown there, and I'm not sure if that's right for a TBF1. A friend of mine, who is a very good modeller and also an Avenger fan, threw up his hands and told me to forget about that, just build the Hobby Boss kit and keep the Monogram as a "blast from the past" souvenir.... Hello Artie, The first batch of Avenger did have the forward firing .30 The monogram kit got it !! That''s one more of my weird idea ! But 8-T-1 is too tempting !! I already have collected resin parts from my différents projects. As for the raised rivets, I'm not yet there but I use to rivet it myself along the engraving of the panels... If you like the rivets, have a look at my Lancaster WiP Thank for the kind words, and go on with your Avengers … Why not ?? Sincerely. CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hi, CC......This is just a hobby, and having fun is what it's all about, isnt' it..???? Anyone approaches the hobby in its own way, and if we decide to do it in the insane way, it's our own bussiness.... I really like working with classic kits, not just for the fond memories they bring me, but for the challenge of updating them....Needless to be said, you won't please everybody doing so, and maybe some of the Alfa Males of scale modelling will tell you you're wrong, even an heretic for walking off the line you're supposed to follow.....That's all bullshit to my ears, it's my kit, it's my time and it's my money.... And returning to the Avenger theme, I'd like to build a british Tarpon I, with the navigator seat in place, so a TBF1 is mandatory....I've got two started Hobby Boss kits on the run, one is going fine, the other not so fine, it even found itself diving against the floor, so lots of scattered parts turned a fine kit into a perfect donor.....The only problem here is that the HB kit represents a TBF1C, with no forward firing 0.30... Best regards..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hi C.C., I’ve often wondered about this Monogram kit and now I can stop wondering. I, too, have an interest in the Battle of Midway and have read several accounts on it. By far the best has been Craig L Stymonds’ book The Battle of Midway. I practically held my breath during Best’s sighting and run up to the Japanese carriers, even though, of course, I knew the outcome. Excellent account of that turning point of the war in the Pacific. Highly recommended. Cheers Dennis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hi Artie The TBF-1 had the cowl gun, the TBF-1C swapped the cowl gun for wing 0.50s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_TBF_Avenger#Variants Note that the FAA did not distinguish, an Avenger I is a Grumman built plane, ie TBF, an Avenger II is an Eastern built plane, a TBM. You need the serial for the subtype! This is important for the modeller as Grumman used Us made MAP colours, Eastern used equivalents, which were US ANA specification, different interior colours too. See here for the full details HTH T 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 12 hours ago, Azgaron said: Good start CC! Looks good! Håkan Thanks Häkan, That will be a long distance Runner too ! 12 hours ago, VMA131Marine said: Note that part of the cockpit floor is formed by the upper surface of the wing. Thanks Sir, That's why I saved the original part, I will add some parts of the différents floor... And the bomb bay… Will be fun !! 5 hours ago, bigbadbadge said: Very interesting project CC will tag along of I may. I am not trying to influence you but FAW all the way !!! I have a Hobbyboss Avenger in the stash which I may have to dig out and have a look at now. Great work so far fella. All the best Chris Thank Chris ! Let's strart an Avenger season ! 2 hours ago, DMC said: Hi C.C., I’ve often wondered about this Monogram kit and now I can stop wondering. I, too, have an interest in the Battle of Midway and have read several accounts on it. By far the best has been Craig L Stymonds’ book The Battle of Midway. I practically held my breath during Best’s sighting and run up to the Japanese carriers, even though, of course, I knew the outcome. Excellent account of that turning point of the war in the Pacific. Highly recommended. Cheers Dennis Thanks Dennis, I've some books on the subject, thanks for the refs, I will try to buy this one too ! Plus some testimonies in my Hook collection. 1 hour ago, Troy Smith said: Hi Artie The TBF-1 had the cowl gun, the TBF-1C swapped the cowl gun for wing 0.50s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_TBF_Avenger#Variants Note that the FAA did not distinguish, an Avenger I is a Grumman built plane, ie TBF, an Avenger II is an Eastern built plane, a TBM. You need the serial for the subtype! This is important for the modeller as Grumman used Us made MAP colours, Eastern used equivalents, which were US ANA specification, different interior colours too. See here for the full details HTH T Thanks Troy, for the color refs, The Monogram will be 8-T-1 but the Accuritaleri one will be a Tarpon, Now FAA or RNZAF ?? I Don't know yet. If my memory did'nt fail too much, I remember a pic of a Tarpon with the invasion stripes… But not quite sure about it ?? Then a Tarpon in Sky and EDSG... That will be cute Would'nt it ?? Sincerely. CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushkill Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Interested to see how this turns out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Just really read the title, CC. Perhaps you should consider editing it. Nothing “stupid” about your ideas. Cheers Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Hello Dears, Sometimes, I keep watching at the books and then back at the models And in doing so, I see that the early TBF did'nt have the oval window on the left side of the access hatch ! Then on the on other side of the fuselage the oval window was a rounded one ! Soooo ! I Don't know if it is a good thing to call it aftermarket materials ?? But some of the internal parts are just copied, it's not worthy to mould it since I just have one Monogram avenger ! Soooo again Have a great modelling time Dears ! And take good care !! Sincerely. CC 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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