Patrik Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 On 2017-11-16 at 3:50 PM, John Aero said: I would say that this is a new venture so give it a chance. I wasn't involved with the Gee Bee, but I have been advising on some other very interesting British projects and for some I am supplying the totally new drawings. Obviously, except for the Vega Gull/ Proctor which is on the flyer, until Eugen (Dora Wings) mentions them I will not say what they are. For the project drawings I have had amazing access to the first three aircraft and particularly for the Proctor I've had the help of a restorer of 4 aircraft who has access to the only remaining works drawings which were found in Australia. I had to convert many of these drawings from fractional Imperial, via decimal Imperial to metric. John Hi John, For me I sincerely hope you are talking (or in fact not talking) about the Wapiti/Wallace, advertised by Dora guys about one year ago in their very first flyer. Patrik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hi John Thank You for gently correcting my failing memory. I'd forgotten the IPA bit which would have made my last build rather easier.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I found a little time to do the rest of the fuselage. The light isn't good but the fabric is there. It probably needs another rub with IPA. which for the casual visitor isn't Indian Pale Ale. John 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Patrik All I will say is that I have been working on a completely new set of drawings for the Wapiti and Wallace. All the previously published drawings have errors. The Wallace drawing have the cockpit in the wrong place. Again it's been the case of sorting out the myths and errors of previous publications and understanding the structure, especially that of the Wapiti and finding where (or if) that mystical 'two foot' difference is between the two airframes. It does by the way. Production Wapiti V's are not longer than any other Wapiti despite some views to the contrary. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Esposito Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 This kit looks great! Cant wait for the R1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrik Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Hi John, the Wapiti length issue is extremely intriguing for me, but I do not want to highjack the thread here any longer. I will send you a PM on this later this week. Excellent work on the Gee Bee fuselage. By the way, where I live, IPA is commonly used as a nickname for bitumen felt. Originally quite probably a trade name (izolacni pas asfaltovy), which became part of the everyday language. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just to make the process clear. You need to reduce the height of the stringers a little and by using a small curved blade to scrape off the plastic, you will also slightly taper the stringers which will reduce their surface area. The primer-filler paint fills up the trough between the stringers and also builds up on the stringers. Use a sponge backed, fine abrasive pad, which will remove the paint from the stringer and the trough but as the plastic surface of the stringer becomes exposed, the paint in between erodes faster, leaving a gentle hollow. Rubbing the surface with a cloth soaked in a thinner/IPA will not effect the plastic but it will gently remove and polish the the paint in between the stringers. I used this method on many of my biplane patterns (the stringers in my case were hard plastic sprue). In retrospect I should have assembled the parts but the object was a fix rather than a build in progress. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 16/11/2017 at 14:50, John Aero said: Spray the stringers with a couple of coats of Halfords Yellow Primer /Filler. HI John A check at Halfords shows a variety of colours, any specfic reason for the yellow, or are they all the same? Just thinking of getting some as this looks a possible solution to Hasegawa Hurricane fuselgage sag http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/car-spray-paints/halfords-filler-primer-500ml thank you Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Hi Troy The Yellow is the "Plastic Filler Primer " Code item 456848 it's like the Grey primer but it's thicker. Cheers John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Aero Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Troy I just checked and Halfords may have made a formula change as it used to be called just Filler Primer (Yellow colour) with a code of 451591. I think that the one I used for the Gee Bee was 848. It will be interesting to see if the two codes are sold concurrently. The old one used to rub down a little quicker IMO. The secret is to use fine rubber sponge backed sanding pads for the initial sanding which will contour and just expose the plastic stringers but not reduce them. Then use the T shirt cloth and solvent. This will gently abrade, smooth and polish the YFP between the high points of the ribs or stringers. The fine /ultra fine sponge pads (size approx 100 mm x 125 mm by 6 mm thick) I use I got from Car body finishing material suppliers and I cut them into smaller squares. Cheer John 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I just put in the 451591 code and it came up as available and the spec said it was the Yellow Filler Primer. It does not have Plastic in the title. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) On 09/12/2017 at 16:11, John Aero said: I think that the one I used for the Gee Bee was 848. It will be interesting to see if the two codes are sold concurrently. The old one used to rub down a little quicker IMO. The secret is to use fine rubber sponge backed sanding pads for the initial sanding which will contour and just expose the plastic stringers but not reduce them. Then use the T shirt cloth and solvent. This will gently abrade, smooth and polish the YFP between the high points of the ribs or stringers. The fine /ultra fine sponge pads (size approx 100 mm x 125 mm by 6 mm thick) I use I got from Car body finishing material suppliers and I cut them into smaller squares. thank you John A friend picked me up a can of Plastic Filler Primer, 300ML, code 456848, (no Halfrods in town) which I have not tried out yet, as I was wating for a mixed box of sanding pad off cuts. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-x-WET-AND-DRY-SANDING-PADS-STRIPS-FINE-GRADE-OFF-CUTS-Model-Crafts/391854688024 which turned up today, and will probably last me forever... the same seller has various other pads, but the offcuts offered a mix of grades in one, and as you said you cut the bigger pads up it seemed a reasonable gamble. . cheers Troy Edited December 13, 2017 by Troy Smith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Homebee Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) The AMG Gee Bee family on display at Brovary model exhibition 2018. Source: http://www.greenmats.club/topic/4277-мікромодель-2018/?tab=comments#comment-60157 V.P. Edited February 18, 2018 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Esposito Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Is the R1 released yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dora Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Yes, R1 is already available for orders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hello, just receive my R1, and it's really a great kit. Thanks to produce it. S. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Pancake Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Will The military Wh-if go in to production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dora Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 11 hours ago, Flying Pancake said: Will The military Wh-if go in to production? Will be done, but later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 - ref. 48002 - Gee Bee R-1 in box review in your favourite forum http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235035985-gee-bee-model-r1-48002-148/ V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) New "what if" Ģee Bee Killer boxing - ref. DW48010 Source: http://dorawings.com/products/1-48/24-granville-p-45b-bee-killer.html https://www.facebook.com/pg/DoraWings-1929101897320378/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2242983029265595 V.P. Edited October 30, 2019 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Homebee said: New "what if" Ģee Bee Killer boxing - ref. ? Source: https://www.facebook.com/pg/DoraWings-1929101897320378/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2242983029265595 Now that's a hoot! They've got pix of the built model on their FB page... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Esposito Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Any chance we'll see the model Z? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dora Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Mike Esposito said: Any chance we'll see the model Z? Maybe... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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