Bandsaw Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Carving or whittling wood is not that difficult and seems to be an option that many modellers rule out too early IMHO. I think however the fact that you must make two identical engines makes using two identical manufactured 'cores' such as the pen barrels a better option in this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 21 hours ago, perdu said: Although I take Hendie's point re: wrapping in wire don't forget you need the little beggar to sit on its nose wheel Don't worry about it sitting on its nose wheel - there is lead in that there nose! It was fun gluing it on to the body as the weight kept tipping it off. Dropped it a few times. Any remember it balanced with 2 AA batteries back there. Whatever I do with these engines it should be lighter than that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 21 hours ago, Reconcilor said: Carving or whittling wood is not that difficult and seems to be an option that many modellers rule out too early IMHO. I think however the fact that you must make two identical engines makes using two identical manufactured 'cores' such as the pen barrels a better option in this case. Think you are right there - building up a basic shape from wood is a good plan. I wanted to try this with all plastic & P38, but there is part of me that still wants to do card wings. Do like a bit of card modelling. Two identical engine starting point should make it easier - I hope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 4 hours ago, bar side said: Think you are right there - building up a basic shape from wood is a good plan. I wanted to try this with all plastic & P38, but there is part of me that still wants to do card wings. Do like a bit of card modelling. Two identical engine starting point should make it easier - I hope When I set out to build the Mig15 I was aiming to reproduce and test the methods and materials I used to use about 30 years ago when I was in my early teens and built my models out of wood. Hence, plywood wings. In my next model I will be making much more extensive use of plastic card - including the wings. I would recommend plastic card for the wings and tail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) Had another go at the cockpit glass today. The original (far left) was only the front 2 panes. Attaching the 2 side panels was a pain. So I made up a card template of the front & side panes combined. Then cut it out in plastic. First one didn't fit well. Second one is on the aircraft. Not glued as I don't have any canopy glue yet, but fit looks passable. I want to get the cockpit & fuselage sealed up soon Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adey m Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Amazing scratch building so far bar side. Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Cheers Adrian Been away for a bit of a break, but managed to pick up some supplies Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Got myself distracted with another diorama and haven't done much on the dominie for a bit. So I stuck windscreen in and fled the cockpit roof on. I thought I would try the milliput out around the windows and roof. What could possibly got wrong? Clear plastic and a putty I have never used before..... Anyway it came out like this Look ok, but it's an interesting product to sand and shape. I think it's coming together ok Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It is coming on as you say When you use Milliput don't let it dry like that, all lumpen and untidy When you have it where you want it try wiping a wetted finger gently on the 'put which will smooth it and allow you to get a finely blended joint Wet is important As is gently And wetted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Good advice. I have had to take the dremel to it in order to smooth it out! P38 sands easier. So I have added some liquid green stuff to smooth out the edges. So thoughts on the shape now. These photos make it look pretty rough but it's actually not to bad Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Quick coat of paint over the dominie to see how it looks The join line between the roof & body needs softening down - I am thinking of going back to P38 to do that. The milliput has been tried on one engine. Need to add some more & see how it comes together. On another bit, I was wondering if you could use an iron to curve the edge of a sheet of plasticard? Would make shaping the front of the wing easier. Anyone tried it ? Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Top tip when using an iron to put a curve on plasticard - remember to use some grease proof paper between the iron and the plastic! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 O... And ...ops Learning curve level modelling always finds us out don't fret about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Think I caught it before doing any real damage. The iron will live to fight another day and the test wing looks ok. To hot and the iron gives an bit of a lumpy curve, bit cooler and it works better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Bit of filler has helped no end to smooth in the roof section. Its a slightly different colour just as it lighter underneath. Seems nice & smooth and the sharper edge has gone. Feeling quite pleased with it now. Couple of engines & a couple of wings..... Oh, almost forgot - scribing some panel lines, undercarriage, flaps, external antennas & arials..... Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Really enjoying this one bar side Great idea (VERY) well presented mate The bits of plastic are becoming.. The Dominie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 minute ago, perdu said: The bits of plastic are becoming.. The Dominie Cheers perdu - it started off as a load of bits and now starts to look at me from the shelf more like a kit. Keep sticking the tail fin and mock up wings on to see how it will look. Kind of itching to make the real wings now. the biggest thing there is cutting out the wheel wells. The flaps will come off when I am happy with the wing shape as a whole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 It's been a while since I've last seen this thread but now I've caught up and am impressed with your progress. Keep going, it's looking good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackem01 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Fantastic progress and fantastic persistence. She looks really good now, I'm well impressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) I cut out a wing today - might not look any different but it is the right size. I ironed over the edges to start the leading edge curve. I will mark it up soon & cut out the wheel well & take off the flaps. Will mark up the ailerons but I am not going to cut them out. They look self leveling as they don't seem to be down in pictures. Unlike the flaps The green wing is the card template Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Quick sketch out of where the ailerons and flaps should go. Will be easier to cut these out before putting the wing together. I have shaped a balsa wood plug for the junction between fuselage & wing to keep the profile in line. Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Ok the flaps are off & the ailerons scribed, bit of internal structure for the wing & it is now glued & drying. Forgot to cut out the wheel well, but I think I can get away with that. I was thinking of painting the basics of the fuselage before putting the wings on, but paint still seems some way off. Need to get on with the engines too. Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Getting some time on it at the moment - the Dominie now has 2 new wings! Flaps on both are cut out too & I managed to get the wheel wells cut in to both. The right one still has the tape on while the glue dries. They are now attached yet, and behind are the engines, one with milliput on to start to shape it. More to do on them & the mountings on either side. Edited July 11, 2017 by bar side 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Getting there in leaps and bounds, those wings look great Edited April 29, 2017 by perdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, perdu said: those wings look great Cheers Perdu - they came together quite nicely. The iron was used to put the front curve on each half & it seemed to help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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