Richard502 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Silly me thought masking German WWII planes was a PITA! Compared to that it's relaxing. Great work, Sir! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Marklo , andwill , Adrian , lanmi , Timmas , Richard - Thanks for the interest and comments. I wont lie. The procedure is sound. It is a workable technique. The success hinges on the first coat of paint being well applied. I have some adhesion issues and I don't want to post pics yet. A few hours cleanup and you guys will see the end result. Thank you for your patience. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, krow113 said: Thank you for your patience. And thank you for yours!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just caught up with this and I think I can safely say you're nuts! But the masking is damned impressive none the less! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 Gentlemen - Thank you! Here is the camo in raw form , applied but not fully cleaned up : Touch up is underway. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 That looks absolutely fantastic! AW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Ditto Andwil’s comments ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevejj Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Truly remarkable camo. I'm not sure if you should get an honour or be psyco analysed! Great work and well beyond and my talents. Can't wait to see the finished aircraft 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Amazing! It looks like the pattern doesn’t repeat? Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 AW, Cffu , Sjj , Adrian ; Thank you. There is no pattern. Each shape is different , each shape is a separate vector file. There are repeated sections of the masks , but by the time you figure out how I manipulated them to change up the overall work , you'll be mental. I'm happy with the colors. I'm happy with the shapes. I'm happy with the procedure. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, krow113 said: I'm happy with the colors. I'm happy with the shapes. I'm happy with the procedure. And you should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Don’t forget to be happy with the result too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 10 hours ago, AdrianMF said: Amazing! It looks like the pattern doesn’t repeat On the bigger planes the camo was painted on not a printed fabric. looks really really good so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 Cffu - Thanks for pointing that out... Adrian - Thank you. Marklo - Thank you . And you are semi-correct . The way I interpret it , after reading as much as possible of available references , is the following; These and others were flown in daylight over England in manufacturers supplied paint jobs. This was primarily light blue. This caused much terror in the population as these puttered about the skies over London at will with no English fighter to challenge them . War spurs on development and in this case the English responded with better planes and the Gothas began to be shot down. This caused a switch to night bombing in LIGHT BLUE bombers. So the German response was to paint camo onto the Gotha's. This is where the hexagons , polygonals , lozenges were started on the big bombers. There are a lot of pics showing the different colors , sizes , shapes etc. AS THEY WERE ALL HAND PAINTED. No printed fabric was available immediately and the bombing must continue. Later we see GV's in printed camo but remembering that the Gotha fuselage was all wood , some hand painting would be inevitable. The Gotha was and will always be one of the most significant aircraft ever built. Even with an atrocious loss rate to the unforgiving flight characteristics , the Germans continued on with the design into the GV series which were getting worse and worse. Also directly responsible for the measures implemented that came to save Great Britain in the Battle of Britain. If WNW continues its production as we have seen , then I'm fully confident we will see a GV. I predicted an 0/400 for 6 or 7 years and we got it as well as a 0/100. It will be interesting to see how they handle the camo part as GV's were completely covered in patterned camo. 6 full decal sheets anyone? I make no claim to Gotha expertise , everything I know is available to anyone else who wants to dig for it. To the work at hand; Touch up easily handled with post-it notes: Sanding with 1500 grit caused little issues: Approximately 3-4 shapes of the same color butted up on a plane , easy enough to drop in a diff color , creating a shape to do so: Really happy as the 'happys' add up. A definitely viable technique to achieve what will always be a difficult camo to reproduce. Glad you guys like it. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmas Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Like it? I think most of us are totally knocked out by it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 Thank you , Timmas and all others interested. Some pics of the more finished camo. Issues arose and were dealt with easily albeit steadily. This is an effective way to get this camo on a model , not too tough and actually rather easy. Here we go: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavanberkel Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Quote ".......not too tough and actually rather easy......" Nevertheless jaw-droppingly magnificent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The camo is absolutely beautiful. And seeing this and the skill needed is one of the reasons I’m going to build the second Albatros CIX not the third one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) wberkel , Marklo - Thanks for your interest and commenting. Looking back to when I first thought of trying this, I remember trepidation and a feeling of trying something that may not work out. That feeling is gone . As the work progressed it became apparent that it can be done , and as the work was completed came the satisfaction. Actually is easy , if certain skills are in place, mostly the experience with large vinyl mask application and properties of the material. As the work is done , I can come clean about the adhesion issues. A very good primer and first color , solvent based , needs to be applied. Here are some pics of the issues : Real weird on the fuse as some polygons pulled up alla the paint and adjacent ones were fine! Edited March 20, 2020 by krow113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Crosswork: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I am currently reading C.M. White’s A Gotha Summer and following your build has made it just that much more interesting. Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Thanks Dennis. Markings going on: 34000 Edited March 27, 2020 by krow113 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Some more markings completed: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 Sloggged through the serials , made a font , looks like a mask for the white outline and decals for the black copy: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Serials printed after a little faffing around. Here is a paper print with the mask on top for checking. It looks good so I'll go ahead and print the decals : Edited April 2, 2020 by krow113 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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