Hewy Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I'm attempting the bobcat models yak 28 p firebar, picked it up today,and first impressions are it looks really nice on the sprues, while ive spent most of my modelling day getting my harrier gr9 a bit closer to completion ive spent the last 45mins dryfitting ,I've not done a whole aircraft in alclad before and i understand from a bit of research that as good of an initial fit is essential to getting a good finish,that is the less damage to panel lines and minimal filler the better,second impressions are ,while not really a criticism the plastic seems a bit waxy, but this is a criticism the mating surfaces of the fuselage are ,to be kind not exactly tamiya,now to be honest i never expected tamiya build quality,but theres going to be a bit more sanding than i would have liked,and hopefully the filler i use,will be ok with waxy plastic,time will tell. Photos tomorrow, cheers Glynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Fuselage now quite a good fit done away with a couple of locating pin on the top of the fuselage near the tail got the tail together nice fit ,and mates withthe fuelage well ,things are looking up starting to get a bit more optimistic Edited February 4, 2017 by Hewy Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 Couple of photos its going together well, the norm will be a couple of three swipes with a sanding stick across the mating surfaces not the leading edges,and the fit is very good,so far,even the canopy looks to fit really well, mrs hewy says i shouldn't take the tape off and just daub glue on it and job done,,😮,cheers Glynn 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Oooh, pointy!! Another interesting machine, I look forward to watching your progress Glynn. Craig. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, modelling minion said: Oooh, pointy!! You are Buffy Summers and I claim my five pounds! I think I'm going to have to investigate this kit. I like the looks of it. Watching with interest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Enzo Matrix said: You are Buffy Summers and I claim my five pounds! Buffy Summers! Now there's a blast from the past. I can assure you that the only thing she and I have in common is skin, and hers is better than mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said: You are Buffy Summers and I claim my five pounds! I think I'm going to have to investigate this kit. I like the looks of it. Watching with interest. Bloomin hell I'm out of the game here,please enlighten me on buffy summers,hopefully she's not a bad gal Glynn Edited February 4, 2017 by Hewy Spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hewy said: Bloomin hell I'm out of the game here,please enlighten me on buffy summers,hopefully she's not a bad gal In every generation there is a chosen one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer Buffy isn't a bad gal. That's Faith... We now return you to the normally scheduled pointy Firebar goodness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hewy said: Bloomin hell I'm out of the game here,please enlighten me on buffy summers,hopefully she's not a bad gal Not a bad gal at all, unless you are a vampire. And I think they've even been eradicated from Atherstone now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said: That's Faith Oooh Faith!! She was bad, but she was also gooood! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 Oh didnt know ms gellers second name in the show i used to watch only all the time, I am in the game after all just needed a little shove, I've just got a bang seat together and i was rather hopfull that it woul be a match for a quick boost mig 21 ,23 seat any body recognise it before i go into research mode Sorry for the poor light 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Scratch that last post about the ejection seat I'm almost certain its the k36vm ejection seat looks very similar in photos and i believe that soviet aircraft manufacturers were producing their own seats ,further research is needed Edited February 4, 2017 by Hewy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, modelling minion said: Not a bad gal at all, unless you are a vampire. And I think they've even been eradicated from Atherstone now. Some are still throwing sticks at the moon around here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Great start Glynn. Looks like everything's going to fit together nicely. Also looks like your thread is in for a massive Buffy derail! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Interesting to read your thoughts and findings with this one. The kit has certainly caused a stir so I'm sure there will be plenty people watching your progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 great, another Firebar to watch and learn from! concerning the ejection seat - good question! http://combatace.com/topic/33711-cockpit-ini-updates-for-paskos-yaks/ http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6092&d=1179764575 http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6093&d=1179764591 http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6094&d=1179764599 probably kk-2s, as found in late MiG-17s would be ok http://www.neomega-resin.com/kk-2-272-p.asp at this build I compared some of the available KK-2s note that the headrest side protection is folded "open" here! hope this helps a bit! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, exdraken said: great, another Firebar to watch and learn from! concerning the ejection seat - good question! http://combatace.com/topic/33711-cockpit-ini-updates-for-paskos-yaks/ http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6092&d=1179764575 http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6093&d=1179764591 http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6094&d=1179764599 probably kk-2s, as found in late MiG-17s would be ok http://www.neomega-resin.com/kk-2-272-p.asp at this build I compared some of the available KK-2s note that the headrest side protection is folded "open" here! hope this helps a bit! Yes exdraken i was thinking kk2 after research thanks for your findings .very similar aren't they 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 38 minutes ago, Col. said: Interesting to read your thoughts and findings with this one. The kit has certainly caused a stir so I'm sure there will be plenty people watching your progress. Col I'm going out on a bit of whim here all the wine induced research from me exdaken and zebra ,are coming up with the kk2 ejection seat ,would it be fair game to fit these in the firebar,cheers glynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 some more I found.... it is getting harder, as Russian is not my first language (nor my 2nd or else....) not neseccarily of the Firebar, looks more like Brewer to me, buit... http://bvvaul-barnaul.narod.ru/2014/1982/82122-026.htm looks like the P version to me, and in camo? http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1265821.html#1265821 I also found this link: maybe that states that the seat is either a KK-2 (late) or an indigenous K-7MN..... whatever that is http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/132485-yak-28p-firebar-ejection-seat/&do=findComment&comment=1178356 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, exdraken said: great, another Firebar to watch and learn from! concerning the ejection seat - good question! http://combatace.com/topic/33711-cockpit-ini-updates-for-paskos-yaks/ http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6092&d=1179764575 http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6093&d=1179764591 http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=6094&d=1179764599 probably kk-2s, as found in late MiG-17s would be ok http://www.neomega-resin.com/kk-2-272-p.asp at this build I compared some of the available KK-2s note that the headrest side protection is folded "open" here! hope this helps a bit! Super pictures youve uncoverd there well usefull kk2 its going to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, exdraken said: some more I found.... it is getting harder, as Russian is not my first language (nor my 2nd or else....) not neseccarily of the Firebar, looks more like Brewer to me, buit... http://bvvaul-barnaul.narod.ru/2014/1982/82122-026.htm looks like the P version to me, and in camo? http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1265821.html#1265821 I also found this link: maybe that states that the seat is either a KK-2 (late) or an indigenous K-7MN..... whatever that is http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/132485-yak-28p-firebar-ejection-seat/&do=findComment&comment=1178356 As far as I've found out the k-7nm was fitted to some late production 28 p but i can't find any photographic reference of this seat, although a few sources mention the kk2 ,many thanks for your findings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) some interesting walk around: https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/b737/album/47227/?&p=8 https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/b737/album/47227/view/386119?page=10 http://bvvaul-barnaul.narod.ru/2014/1982/82123-002-3.htm slightly different layout: http://vaul.ru/vypuskniki/vypuski-1971-1975/1972-g?layout=edit&id=306 ?? could be from a Yak-25 http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/img_665073_1333132676_12.jpg.html sorry, if I am a pain already just tell me! I is also me doing a bit of research now for the first time on this plane... better sharing it I though! Edited February 5, 2017 by exdraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Hewy said: As far as I've found out the k-7nm was fitted to some late production 28 p but i can't find any photographic reference of this seat, although a few sources mention the kk2 ,many thanks for your findings Yes a late 28p i don'tbelieve they started camo finishes til the mid 80s,i did notice that the star on the tail isnt level and tilts forward ,and ive noticed this on other sovet jets toofrom the 80s , I'm not ocd by the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Reads as if you lads are leading the way in researching a difficult subject. Best of luck solving this conundrum as I think there will be quite a few people asking the same questions as the kit lands on more workbenches soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 That camouflaged Firebar is interesting. I expect the chances of a colour photo turning up are pretty slim! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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