Paul Bradley Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) I just bought a Heller 1/50 Jaguar M - the aborted French Navy version - from eBay - but it has arrived without instructions. Does anyone have a set they could please scan for me? The 1/50 Jaguar A kit instructions are likely very similar, so those would do in a pinch. TIA! Edited January 27, 2017 by Paul Bradley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junchan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Hi Paul, You are lucky as a Jaguar M is my next project and have just dug it up from my stash. Let me know your e-mail address, so I will send you scanned copies of the instructions. Jun in Tokyo https://www.flickr.com/photos/horaburo/albums Edited January 27, 2017 by Junchan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thank you, Jun - PM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepb Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hi Paul, Are you the one who outbid me for the one from USA? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 This one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SEPECAT-JAGUAR-M-AIRCRAFT-MILITARY-AIRPLANE-HELLER-MODEL-KIT-/351958308374?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=D2KZd%2FYKvRisdKNhbtclTo%2BRHKY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc In which case - yes. In which case - sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I hadn't realised that they did one in this scale, I built the teeny one years ago. Be great to see a WIP for this, as fascinated by the idea of a carrier based Jag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'd be happy to oblige at some point, but I'm rather swamped with projects at the moment and for the foreseeable future! I do intend to build it as close to OOB as possible, though I'll probably need to replace the decals as the kit ones are extremely yellowed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepb Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 28/01/2017 at 0:02 AM, Paul Bradley said: This one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SEPECAT-JAGUAR-M-AIRCRAFT-MILITARY-AIRPLANE-HELLER-MODEL-KIT-/351958308374?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=D2KZd%2FYKvRisdKNhbtclTo%2BRHKY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc In which case - yes. In which case - sorry! Yep, that's the one. Mind you, looking at the assembly instructions (thanks Jun) the undercarriage is not very accurate compared to photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 What are the odds?! I'm sure there are quite a few inaccuracies, which is one reason I intend to do it out of the box, as a period piece. I also have the Heller 1/50 Etendard from a slightly earlier period that I will also do OOB - and including all the working features! - and I can display them together. For an accurate Jaguar M, I believe I've seen an article somewhere, either online or in a magazine, where someone used a Jaguar A kit and used a Phantom nose leg! Amongst other modifications, of course. My build will be strictly blinkered as far as accuracy is concerned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepb Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The problem with the Jaguar M u/c is that the main oleos on other Jaguar models are raked forward, while those on the M are at right angles to the underside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It's a shame there isn't a kit of it in a proper scale, it's a very nice looking Jaguar. John 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Nice! Thanks for those, John! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) John, you always come up with the goods with the British stuff, but didn't expect those, Jaguar M while testing at RAE Bedford - superb shots! Would love to see some shots of the kit sprues, just to see any differences from the aircraft. Edited February 1, 2017 by 71chally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'll try to take some over the weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 10 hours ago, 71chally said: John, you always come up with the goods with the British stuff, but didn't expect those, Jaguar M while testing at RAE Bedford - superb shots! Would love to see some shots of the kit sprues, just to see any differences from the aircraft. There is a surprising amount coverage of the Jaguar M in the archives, which is nice! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Thank you Paul, will probably end with me trying to find and buy the kit! that's great to hear John, I have seen it said that the nose leg was the same as the Phantom, your shots clearly show it's not but I can see how one could be adapted for a kit. Edited February 2, 2017 by 71chally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 10 hours ago, 71chally said: Thank you Paul, will probably end with me trying to find and buy the kit! that's great to hear John, I have seen it said that the nose leg was the same as the Phantom, your shots clearly show it's not but I can see how one could be adapted for a kit. James the only thing I can see the Jaguar nose leg has in common with that of the Phantom is the fact it expands. I've noticed something about the trials is much of the flying appears to have been done with a combination of undercarriage doors missing? John 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Superb shots again John. Now preserved, this Jag displays a different arrangement of nose gear doors again, must have went through some changes! Seems a real shame that this didn't go into production, the early Adour performance couldn't have helped. Make a great Royal Navy WIF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMP2 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 It wasnt just the M that had some nosewheel door fiddling, the GRs did too, so maybe just a Jag thing rather than an M thing? I have also read that a nose gear from a Phantom was used/modified and it looks pretty similar to me, especially at the top end. Would love to hear and see more of it, regardless, it is rather tasty lookin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just out of interest John, does the archive have any good general arrangement drawings of Jaguar M? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, 71chally said: Just out of interest John, does the archive have any good general arrangement drawings of Jaguar M? No James not in what I have, so I suspect not, but things are turning up all the time. I did have a look through but I could find nothing. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Thanks for looking, and responding so quickly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niki Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Hi everyone, apologies for digging this one up but seeing the great pictures John posted, I thought that I might just ask my questions here Regarding the markings found on M05, can anyone please help out with the following? - badge on left hand side intake splitter plate: that should be an RAE Bedford crest, right? - white symbols under the windscreen: what do they represent? There are a couple different shapes... - badge on right hand side intake splitter plate: is it a stylized insignia of the Clemenceau aircraft carrier? - badges on the right side intake (behind the "J"): is the first one the badge of Flotille 14F? What could the second one (some sort of black "V"/ wings on light blue background) belong to? Cheers, Niki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV O Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 A video about carrier trials : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=avbIcbCG5Rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Sepecat Jaguar - Warplane Classic No.1 by Andy Evans has a few pages and about a dozen or so images of the Jaguar M as well as a section describing the various markings added at different times and is still available at - https://www.guidelinepublications.co.uk/index.php?GOTO=3&PICFILE=3&STKNR=3&STRH=&ORDN=&RNZ=544271 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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