sniperUK Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 And still the wrong rear cockpit for the GR. 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkp Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, sniperUK said: And still the wrong rear cockpit for the GR. 4. As someone who doesn't know a whole lot about the Tornado, what rear cockpit has Italeri modelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Sources:Â https://www.facebook.com/AirModeller/posts/5470984816248754 https://www.italeri.com/en/article/779 Â Â V.P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV908 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I find it a shame that out of the three Retirement schemes they picked the jet which went tech the most.  ZD716 would have been a better choice as it was the only one which didn't go tech (apart from one day maybe)and therefore was the one that most people saw.  Odd to do ZA542 twice as well.  Cheers,  WV908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsyouruncle Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 6:35 PM, hopkp said: As someone who doesn't know a whole lot about the Tornado, what rear cockpit has Italeri modelled? I'm not a Tornado expert, just a keen admirer who's got a few books, so please feel free to dive in and correct me here. I think in the rear cockpit, the Italeri top console area looks pretty good for an early GR4 (no later version TARDIS), whereas the lower panel, just behind the central 'stick' looks like the German/Italian IDS and ECR (the same as the Revell kit)? The Aires resin rear seat lower panel looks pretty good for a regular GR4 to my eyes? For my purposes, I was always going to mix and match and scratch in the cockpit, as I want to model the 617 'Special tail' GR4 'trainer' two seater (so the more cockpit parts I've got to play with the better).  I really like most of this kit and will have to get one. The main thing for me is that it looks very much like a very nice GR4 on the outside (to my eyes anyway - I've only seen the one panel I want to correct so far, without looking too close).  Other plus points for me are the intake doors and trunks and I do like that overall look of the included dropped flaps and slats. I know the Revell one's cheaper (mine was £25 in the Hobbycraft sale), but there's virtually no panel detail left visible on the fuselage sides and beneath the nose on my copy of it and that's quite a bit of careful scribing to do. My Revell kit was also the 'Gulf War GR1' aircraft, so lacked the stencilling for a 'regular' GR4 (which you get in the Italeri kit) and a FLIR pod (not a lot of work to scratchbuild, but also included here). I'm hoping that between the two of them I should be able to get one nice one (and a fair second one).  Trivia alert: - I'd never noticed the 'holes' below the raised spoilers before (which looked so noticeable to me in the test build photos here) either in books or in real life, but then again how often are you in a position to see what's under them when raised, unless you've worked on one? (perhaps flying above it whilst it's applying reverse thrust?). I was intrigued enough to just have a look back through my photos and did find this shot from Cad West in the mach loop back in 2013 (I think), of ZA371. I'm pretty sure I won't be modelling the raised spoilers option, but in case anyone is and can't find a reference photo, (as I couldn't), I'll include this one of mine which shows there are holes there.   Cheers Bob.           3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 It would now be great if someone (Eduard) made the following resin products in 1/32 and 1/48 scale......  TIRRS blister CAS sensors CBLS 200 TARDIS Display 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IV(AC)Plumb Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Muzz said: It would now be great if someone (Eduard) made the following resin products in 1/32 and 1/48 scale......  TIRRS blister CAS sensors CBLS 200 TARDIS Display And Brimstone... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Well, maybe time for a little scratch building and resin again?..Hmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IV(AC)Plumb Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'm sure it won't take much for Eduard to upscale their 1/48 sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited)  I'm very, very tempted...  I've always had the bug to build one of these 1/32 beasts; not my usual scale but I like the subject and such great potential to really go to town  as a super detail project. I have amassed aftermarket for that purpose over the years (including various old Paragon sets) for use on the Revell kit but for some reason never got round to it seriously (cut some parts from the sprue, test fitted things etc). Good kit though the Revell one is/was I felt that it was worth waiting either until I had the time to do it justice or something even better arrived on the scene. By the looks of it this new Italeri version it provides for much of my planned detailing right out of the box - in particular lowered flaps, detailed cockpit etc  it even has the engines...! All this certainly helps to defary the realatively high price of the kit if you planned to buy these as aftermarket. I guess there is always the chance to embelish what's there if appropriate, but I'm hoping its all good enough.  The common cry we usually hear with any Tornado kit is the nose shape is off, or the panel lines are wrong, or the sit of the aircraft is not right... or worse (Hobbyboss...); although my preference is generally to convey the look and feel of a subject rather than absolute accuracy, its really nice to have both!  I really hope that the kit designers have noted others' errors and this kit is spot on with these (and everything else). If I'm honest my corncern with Italeri kits in recent years is probably the finesse or otherwise of their panel lines. I am hoping that in 1/32 these will be OK, however contrary to my usual habits I will hold off ordering until the kit has been reviewed by those more learned than me.  Not so bothered about the absence of UK stores in this kit as if/when I buy it, I fully intend to backdate mine to an RAF Germany GR.1 in old school DSG/DG. Now where did I put those old Paragon JP233's?   Rich Edited October 18, 2020 by RichG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Decal sheet announced from Xtradecal  https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X32070?result-token=AtLtm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Stephen said: Decal sheet announced from Xtradecal https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X32070  Panavia Tornado GR.4 - ZD716, ‘DH’ - crewed by Flt. Lt. N. Shawyer and Wg. Cdr. M. J. Bressani of 31 Squadron, Royal Air Force, RAF Marham, March, 2019. Panavia Tornado GR.4 -  ZG752 - crewed by Sqn. Ldr. I. Dornan and Sqn. Ldr. S. Beardmore of IX(B) & 31 Squadron, Royal Air Force, RAF Marham, March, 2019. Panavia Tornado GR.4 - ZG750 - XV(R) Squadron, Royal Air Force, RAF Lossiemouth, 2016      V.P.   Edited October 22, 2020 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 Released - ref. 2513 - MRCA Tornado GR.4 https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/2937 Â V.P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetasker Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 My local model shop tells me mine arrived this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, petetasker said: My local model shop Jacksons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie894 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 In stock at Hannants and ModelHobbies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetasker Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Dave Swindell said: Jacksons? How did you guess. I’ll always try and support my local model shop. Incredibly well stocked for its size and they were cheaper than the big H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 2:16 PM, RichG said:  I'm very, very tempted... I can resist everything except temptation... damn it! Order placed!  Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, petetasker said: How did you guess. I’ll always try and support my local model shop. Incredibly well stocked for its size. Not much in the way of options! He's always looked well stocked through the window, but he's never been open when I'm anywhere near. Good service from the website though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Roll on payday... 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Anyone got thier hands on the kit yet, be interesting to hear first impressions on the surface detail and plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Shaun said: Anyone got thier hands on the kit yet, be interesting to hear first impressions on the surface detail and plastic? https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/87167-new-italeri-tornado-gr4-132nd-scale-first-impression-pics/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV908 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 On 11/14/2020 at 10:24 AM, Stephen said: https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/87167-new-italeri-tornado-gr4-132nd-scale-first-impression-pics/  This convinced me to cave in and buy one. Thanks for the link!  Cheers,  WV908 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin ritchie Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Quote And still the wrong rear cockpit for the GR. 4. Â Nope , not true , the Large Format TARDISÂ MFDÂ i included in the kit as an option , 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I may have missed it in the chat but can you make a GR.1 out of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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