gioca Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 First renders ... https://www.italeri.com/notizia/778 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I hope the port side cannon is optional as I believe it shouldn't be there in a GR.4. As mentionned by Tim Poppa on FB, the starboard front fuselage panels are inaccurate: http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Panavia Tornado GR.4 Walkaround ZG771 RAF Nth Ireland 2017/content/Panavia Tornado GR.4 ZG771 RAF Nth Ireland 2017 001 GraemeMolineux_large.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I think the biggest problem with it is that it's just a CAD drawing. I can't build that. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Thank you Gioca. For the sake of clarity see herebelow the aforementioned 3D renders. Source: https://www.facebook.com/ItaleriModelKit/posts/3580849235321004 V.P. Edited February 9, 2020 by Homebee 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtkrl92 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Great. A new Tornado in this scale is long overdue and it should be good improvement over Revell's Tornado, which lacks many details with many erroneous existing ones. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner14 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The CAD is a standard IDS with no GR4 chin pods. It might even depict an ECR so there’s a bit of work yet before we get to see an RAF Fin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gioca Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 23 hours ago, Laurent said: I hope the port side cannon is optional as I believe it shouldn't be there in a GR.4. As mentionned by Tim Poppa on FB, the starboard front fuselage panels are inaccurate: http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Panavia Tornado GR.4 Walkaround ZG771 RAF Nth Ireland 2017/content/Panavia Tornado GR.4 ZG771 RAF Nth Ireland 2017 001 GraemeMolineux_large.html well, and if it's only a problem due to a "mistake" by the graphic editor ( I hope in english is the right definition). I know this kind of people always have a view from an estetich point of view instead of a more realistic one, so they use sometimes to change the proper verse of an image, thinking an airplane is a simmetric object ... they dont' know this is a not a rule, not for pannels and details of course ... and so the big mistake and the debate starts for something the original render and model have not , due simply by a reverse image. Look at this changed reverse image and tell me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTEN75 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, gioca said: well, and if it's only a problem due to a "mistake" by the graphic editor ( I hope in english is the right definition). I know this kind of people always have a view from an estetich point of view instead of a more realistic one, so they use sometimes to change the proper verse of an image, thinking an airplane is a simmetric object ... they dont' know this is a not a rule, not for pannels and details of course ... and so the big mistake and the debate starts for something the original render and model have not , due simply by a reverse image. Look at this changed reverse image and tell me ... Good one indeed, but I'm not sure they mirrored the pic. In the detail image I can see the end part of refuelling probe case. It is correctly depicted on the starboard aft fuselage. I think that we are watching at some very early 3d modelling stage renders. I suppose all Tornado variants (I hope!) are being considered and the renders are a mix of them. It's a pity the delay in showing up with those renders, they totally missed Nurnberg Toy fair. Lack of informations and those poorly rendered images will fan the flames on debate for the accuracy of the model... Edited February 10, 2020 by MARTEN75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, MARTEN75 said: I think that we are watching at some very early 3d modelling stage renders. Yes. They would have shown the cockpit otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 More 3D renders. Source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3652150311524229&id=454765391262753 V.P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/10/2020 at 2:36 PM, MARTEN75 said: Good one indeed, but I'm not sure they mirrored the pic. In the detail image I can see the end part of refuelling probe case. It is correctly depicted on the starboard aft fuselage. I think that we are watching at some very early 3d modelling stage renders. I suppose all Tornado variants (I hope!) are being considered and the renders are a mix of them. It's a pity the delay in showing up with those renders, they totally missed Nurnberg Toy fair. Lack of informations and those poorly rendered images will fan the flames on debate for the accuracy of the model... Actually, I would suggest that any debate is futile until such time as we get much better illustrations and/or pictures of the test shots/actual sprue shots. Of course, that would deny the cyber warriors and, keyboard "experts" who love to rubbish kits at the earliest opportunity (sometimes even before the CADs are published) their fun! Allan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 Moulds Source: https://www.facebook.com/ItaleriModelKit/posts/3716094078463185 Quote Tornado GR.4 1:32 scale - Preview Part 3 we are proud to show you some pictures of our 100% new scale model kit production moulds. In the next weeks we will share with you more and more pictures (plastics details, decal sheets, final assembly and painting tests…) to arrive to the release of our new fantastic kit. V.P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Thoughts: 1) discussing about accuracy is useless now as the tooling is ongoing 2) One of the photos 1 or 3 has been flipped along Ox axis... I wonder why 3) Photo 3 shows the cutting of the mould, photo 1 show the later EDM stage so we have an illustration of how moulds are made... kinda cool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 The tail planes or ‘tailerons’ bring back memories of the Hobby Boss 1/48 version and the part breakdown very similar to the 1/48 Revell kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV908 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 That tail breakdown suggests there is an F3 in the works... Eek! Cheers, WV908 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin ritchie Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Quote F3 in the works... Eek! Double EEK from me as well, I spent 2 years toiling over a 1/32 conversion without a shiff of resin anywhere - and that means means I want a decent 32nd F4 SO Badly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 21/03/2020 at 11:36, WV908 said: That tail breakdown suggests there is an F3 in the works... Eek! Cheers, WV908 That would be more than fantastic. Not being so “up” on the detail changes at the tail end can you give a pointer there? I have a resin conversion set in the stash but it looks easy to bodge it up. A proper injected kit would save a few tears and cash in the swear box 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV908 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, JohnT said: That would be more than fantastic. Not being so “up” on the detail changes at the tail end can you give a pointer there? I have a resin conversion set in the stash but it looks easy to bodge it up. A proper injected kit would save a few tears and cash in the swear box Hi John, at the top of fin there are slots for the ECM and AFT Housings, meaning there are interchangeable parts. Only the F2 and F3 did NOT have these. If you're wanting to shift the conversion set I've been after one for a while! Cheers, WV908 Edited March 22, 2020 by WV908 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, WV908 said: Hi John, at the top of fin there are slots for the ECM and AFT Housings, meaning there are interchangeable parts. Only the F2 and F3 did NOT have these. If you're wanting to shift the conversion set I've been after one for a while! Cheers, WV908 Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. That seems encouraging. I am doing a line up of 111 Sqn types and the F3 is the end of the line. Well maybe, who knows? Typhoon or Lightning reformation in the future? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV908 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnT said: Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. That seems encouraging. I am doing a line up of 111 Sqn types and the F3 is the end of the line. Well maybe, who knows? Typhoon or Lightning reformation in the future? I think a Typhoon with a black tail and yellow lightning bolt would look very smart! An IM Tonka F3 would be very welcome in the future though. Italeri has an excuse to do it what with the Italian operated ADV's / leased F3's Cheers, WV908 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, WV908 said: Hi John, at the top of fin there are slots for the ECM and AFT Housings, meaning there are interchangeable parts. Only the F2 and F3 did NOT have these. If you're wanting to shift the conversion set I've been after one for a while! Cheers, WV908 No reason or suggestion for them not to do an F3 but remember other IDS variants have different sensors in these locations as well which will require interchangeable parts. Be great if they indeed do a ADV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcour Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 "...to arrive to the release of our new fantastic kit." Well, that's a very humble statement indeed... We've seen so many "fantastic" kits... Wait until you bring it out and see how it's brutally killed by rivet counters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spruecutter96 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 What kinda dollar do folks think this will be? I'm reckoning £100 plus on initial release. I could see me buying one 12-18 months after the release, when the price has cooled down a bit. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spruecutter96 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 This should be a big improvement on the ancient Revell kits, even given any possible imperfections. As ever, those who want to criticise a new kit will do so and those who want to build it will buy it and enjoy constructing it. Chris. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 12:17 PM, spruecutter96 said: What kinda dollar do folks think this will be? I'm reckoning £100 plus on initial release. I could see me buying one 12-18 months after the release, when the price has cooled down a bit. Chris. Or, maybe Revell might rebox and reissue it in a couple of years at half the price of the original? Like they did with the Italeri Mirage IIIE? 😊 Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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