silver911 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I would say get a Ducati....but I am having a lot of issues with fit etc., ....so scrub that idea lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'll post a picture of the metal part that is bent when I get to work. As for kpnuts....I built the Ducati and the Aventador, zero issues with these models. The Ducati is a work of art. Beautiful. My problems are with the Huracan, and it seems every one elses problems are too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activexp Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Just to second most of what's been said about the Aventador, mine went together with no issues although I did have 2 missing parts. I'm beginning to suspect that something dodgy is going on with the packers in the factory, if you know what I mean......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 ...a touch of the 'Leyland' workforce when they had issues with the management... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Not sure what this piece is called....hopefully the photos are enough to give you an idea. It's out of shape, not symmetrical like it should be. The bent piece is quite thin, so I don't want to attempt to realign it as it may get worse, or even break... See what I mean? Now this piece was firmly packed and supported by Styrofoam, it couldn't have been damaged in transit, it was damaged at the place of packaging. Either before packaging or during packaging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouln Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I would call that an Apple lightning cable. Or are referring to the other pat in the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 lo....yes the crooked metal piece. Took a few photos trying to highlight the "crookedness" of it... The lightning cable is also borked, I guess. Tried to save the already falling apart cable by wrapping it with the good ol' "pen spring" thingy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinky Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 12 hours ago, silver911 said: I would say get a Ducati....but I am having a lot of issues with fit etc., ....so scrub that idea lol LOL, I share your experience with the Ducati. I had to request some spares for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinky Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Mikeymo said: See what I mean? Now this piece was firmly packed and supported by Styrofoam, it couldn't have been damaged in transit, it was damaged at the place of packaging. Either before packaging or during packaging Interesting, its out of shape but not as much as the one I had. Its impossible that it happen during transport, this piece is really hard. It still sucks, I would request a spare if thatch the only issue. And in the meantime you can also try to bend it back. It probably brakes, as there is almost no flexibility in the metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I'm still waiting for them to get back to me with ETA on spares, if any at all. Yeah, it's not as bad as your bent part, but for the money this cost...there should be NO bent parts at all. The more and more I think on this, the more and more I think this will be a collector's item one day So perhaps I should persist and wait for parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinky Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 I completely agree, for this amount of money everything should be perfectly fine. If everything else is good I would keep it. And you might be right, this might become collectors item some day. If Hornby proceed like this they will go bankrupt soon. By the way Hornby's response is not that fast so I would start building if I was you ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Spares could be difficult right now. Hornby sold Pocher to a Danish (?) company a few weeks ago, and all Pocher stock was shifted over to them so I would guess Hornby will just pass your info and request/complaint to the new owners. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharknose156 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 This means there is hope that the problems will be solved ! and the Mercedes gullwing may be produced ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1984 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 The bent cast part is almost certainly a production issue. Assuming it's Zamac, it will break before bending. I was was on the verge of buying this kit, but am having second thoughts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 hours ago, sharknose156 said: This means there is hope that the problems will be solved ! and the Mercedes gullwing may be produced ! I very much doubt the problems will be solved in terms of quality of parts....the re-tooling costs would be prohibitive....and would leave the new owners with a start up loss. As for current issues of missing/damaged parts....unless the new owners are going to open every box they have received from Hornby....then until existing stock is sold and a new run of kits produced....we won't know for sure. As for the 'Gull wing'...that is being marketed by 'Eagle Moss'.....so will never arrive from Pocher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Rfk2002, Rich, told me that Autograph Models has a survey going asking what car you would like to see as the next new Pocher release. I'm of the opinion that it should be an older car rather than a new super car. As we've seen in the Aventador and Huracan, there's not much opportunity to show details especially, in the engine area. I'd like to see something more on the lines of a Type 57 Bugatti or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharknose156 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 5 hours ago, silver911 said: As for the 'Gull wing'...that is being marketed by 'Eagle Moss'.....so will never arrive from Pocher Silver, isn't a Gullwing supposed to be coming from Pocher ? i am on a waiting list at the shop here in Lausanne. Larchiefeng, yes another oldie would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, sharknose156 said: Silver, isn't a Gullwing supposed to be coming from Pocher ? i am on a waiting list at the shop here in Lausanne. Larchiefeng, yes another oldie would be great It was (the Gull Wing Merc) originally due for release by Pocher/Hornby.....but due to Hornby's financial and production problems....Eagle Moss took it over and are marketing it as we speak! https://www.eaglemoss.com/de-de/modelle-modellbau/ihr-modellbausatz-mercedes-300sl/ I would be inclined to ask for a refund if you have made a deposit....and would certainly ask the shop why they are not aware of the situation. There have been several disagreements over whether this is in fact the same kit....and one particular guy has stated he saw the original...and they are most certainly the same product! Regards Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 My understanding is that it is the same kit but Pocher couldn't take it over until the Eaglemoss subscription based distribution was completed. Now Hornby no longer has Pocher and with all the problems with the Huracan I think that the 300 SL is a dead deal and the new owners are looking to produce a completely new kit. I don't think that I would be pre-paying for any Pocher kit at this time until they can prove themselves to be able to meet a deadline. Anyone with any other info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, larchiefeng said: My understanding is that it is the same kit but Pocher couldn't take it over until the Eaglemoss subscription based distribution was completed. Now Hornby no longer has Pocher and with all the problems with the Huracan I think that the 300 SL is a dead deal and the new owners are looking to produce a completely new kit. I don't think that I would be pre-paying for any Pocher kit at this time until they can prove themselves to be able to meet a deadline. Anyone with any other info? The information I was given by a shop over here was that the original design and some tooling was the property of Hornby....and once their financial difficulties became known....Eagle Moss purchased the rights for a subscription marketing/sales. We can only go by what scant information is available to us through the net or dealers I guess. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Eaglemoss had the Merc kit years before Pocher even mentioned it. It was a part-work in different parts of Europe and it has completed some time ago. It started in 2012. There is a full build thread (in German) of the kit here: http://www.wettringer-modellbauforum.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=42551&pageNo=1 Pocher were going to 're-box' the Eaglemoss kit, create new instructions and then release it. Vastly cheaper than completely tooling a new and different kit. Hornby's woes pulled the plug, so Eaglemoss have now released the partwork in France. Someone on another forum emailed EM to see if the part work will come to the UK at some time and the reply was a definitive NO. Edited February 21, 2017 by roymattblack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, roymattblack said: Eaglemoss had the Merc kit years before Pocher even mentioned it. It was a part-work in different parts of Europe and it has completed some time ago. It started in 2012. There is a full build thread (in German) of the kit here: http://www.wettringer-modellbauforum.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=42551&pageNo=1 Pocher were going to 're-box' the Eaglemoss kit, create new instructions and then release it. Vastly cheaper than completely tooling a new and different kit. Hornby's woes pulled the plug, so Eaglemoss have now released the partwork in France. Someone on another forum emailed EM to see if the part work will come to the UK at some time and the reply was a definitive NO. Nice one Roy.....that sounds like the definitive answer.....clears it all up nicely Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Okay, I have contacted the local supplier here in Australia, and they have said they're contacting THEIR supplier....but they're not very good with communication. However, I contacted Hornby directly. Sent them photos last night and a long email about how dissatisfied I am...they followed up with an email requesting my address, so I can only assume that means they're sending me replacement parts. Hopefully that doesn't take too long. This is good news, because I did really want to build this kit, however I put it all back in the box preparing to send it back.....seems that I might not have to send it back. Will give you guys more updates as they come through. Given the timezone difference, I won't hear from Hornby until tonight, I'll ask for an ETA on the parts....so when I get home from work I can unbox it AGAIN and start to prepare the crappy plastic parts for painting! Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Having said all that.....I'll not be buying another Pocher kit. I've got three now. That'll do me. Not investing large amounts of money into headaches. Next kits I'm buying will be the Tamiya 1/12 Ferrari Enzo and Porsche Carerra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouln Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, silver911 said: As for the 'Gull wing'...that is being marketed by 'Eagle Moss'.....so will never arrive from Pocher Yes, but they do not sell in every country. Strangly enough they may sell their subscriptions in Germany but not in Holland. Don't understand their marketing filosophy. I agree with Roy regarding EM having the subscription way before Pocher mentioned it to be a future model. Some time ago I also asked the company whether a subscription in Holland would be possible. Same answer: NO Edited February 21, 2017 by Pouln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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