Martian Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The weathering on those drop tanks looks pretty much spot on to me. Martian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 22 hours ago, Martian Hale said: The weathering on those drop tanks looks pretty much spot on to me. Martian Thanks Martian, G'day people, I have painted a few more basic colours onto the SHAR, I think it may be time for a clear coat, cheers, Pappy 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 G'day people, I managed to get the pylons glossed up, The pylons were given a quick brush over with Future then, while still wet, the decals were applied and they were given another brush over with Future. I find that this 'Future sandwich' works very well when using small stencils which can be prone to silvering, cheers, Pappy 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 G'day people, Still limping along, I have added the makeshift chaff fit to the airbrake well. The SHAR was not equipped with a dedicated CMDR system when the task force set sail, so in something akin to a Blue Peter episode, an improvised system consisting of chaff bundles stuffed into the airbrake well was devised. The bundles were held in place by welding rods connected to the airbrake door by wire. when the airbrake was opened, the rods were released allowing the chaff to be deployed, crude but effective! cheers, Pappy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 G'day people, She is sitting on her pins and decals are on Plus a little mock-up just because! enjoy Pappy 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Pappy said: enjoy Pappy I am, big time! Martian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Great to see she progressing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Excelent work. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 11 hours ago, Martian Hale said: I am, big time! Martian You are very welcome Martian 11 hours ago, exdraken said: Great to see she progressing! 11 hours ago, Martian Hale said: I am, big time! Martian 11 hours ago, The Spadgent said: Excelent work. John Glad you are all enjoying the build, Today's update, All the fiddly bits done Better pics when I get the chance Pappy 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Excellent work Pappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Really nice build!!! Nice detail and the pilot is amazing! Paint chips are very realistic as well as the tanks and loads. I love that tractor.Must be the same used by Ex-FAAWAFU for his Sea King. What manufacturer makes it? I've got several FAA subjects to do and I'd like to add it to one of them! What will it be your next build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Courageous said: Excellent work Pappy. Thanks very much! 1 hour ago, massimo said: Really nice build!!! Nice detail and the pilot is amazing! Paint chips are very realistic as well as the tanks and loads. I love that tractor.Must be the same used by Ex-FAAWAFU for his Sea King. What manufacturer makes it? I've got several FAA subjects to do and I'd like to add it to one of them! What will it be your next build? Grazie mille! The tractor is included in the 1/48 Skunkworks models Royal Navy tractors set (48017). There are two tractors in each kit and the decals include stencils for both the old GSE yellow scheme and the current green one. It builds up very nicely and includes some ground crew, a tow bar and ladders, but make sure the ladder is installed on the right side of the cockpit as the pictures on the box are wrong. Here is a linky to some more pictures of the tractor if you are interested: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234995755-vickers-royal-navy-deck-tractor/&tab=comments#comment-2234109 cheers, Pappy Edited August 27, 2017 by Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pappy said: Thanks very much! Grazie mille! The tractor is included in the 1/48 Skunkworks models Royal Navy tractors set (48017). There are two tractors in each kit and the decals include stencils for both the old GSe yellow scheme and the current green one. It build up very nicely and includes some groundcrew, a towbar and ladders, but make sure the ladder is installed on the right side of the cockpit as the pictures on the box are wrong. Here is a linky to some more pictures of the tractor if you are interested: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234995755-vickers-royal-navy-deck-tractor/&tab=comments#comment-2234109 cheers, Pappy Really helpful!!!Thanks Pappy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Great work ... learned something i didnt know. I never knew they carried blue #'s someday i will add both the harrier and sea harrier to my pile o kits. Only have an Av-8b waiting to be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlindawg Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Magnificent! Nice work Pappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 That looks the dog's danglies, lovely model! Martian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Very nice FRS1 Pappy ! One question... why is Invincible steaming in reverse? How do I know? The yaw vane ahead of the canopy should be orange section forward, an easy fix to make. Unless Invincible is steaming backwards, of course... Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Not necessarily; the aircraft is on the deck and could be facing aft. Also, due to the irregular course corrections that the ships had to take (zig-zagging) the ship could be sailing with the wind from aft; even during flying stations, and this would mean the aircraft took off and recovered facing aft. Here is a painting depicting such as scene, showing HMS Hermes with one FRS.1 just landed and another about to be recovered; both pointing aft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 15 hours ago, NG899 said: Very nice FRS1 Pappy ! One question... why is Invincible steaming in reverse? How do I know? The yaw vane ahead of the canopy should be orange section forward, an easy fix to make. Unless Invincible is steaming backwards, of course... Cheers Nick Cheers Nick! I was just thinking I wanted the yaw vane to be pointing in a random direction, as if it was being pointed in whatever direction the prevailing wind direction on the flight deck was .What you said makes sense of course. Bootneck's comments also make sense, so I will support what he said! Does this mean that the yaw vane would be spring loaded back to the 'normal' position unless acted upon by a yaw input 14 hours ago, bootneck said: Not necessarily; the aircraft is on the deck and could be facing aft. Also, due to the irregular course corrections that the ships had to take (zig-zagging) the ship could be sailing with the wind from aft; even during flying stations, and this would mean the aircraft took off and recovered facing aft. Here is a painting depicting such as scene, showing HMS Hermes with one FRS.1 just landed and another about to be recovered; both pointing aft. Thanks Bootneck! I will eventually place the kit on a scenic base with a tow motor, I will just have to add that it is being towed 'downwind' now, cheers, Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Hi Pappy, the yaw vane swivels freely on top of the pylon so it always points into wind. So, as Bootneck says, if parked and the wind across the deck is coming from the stern, then the vane could be pointing as is. I would say that would have been a rare occurrence as during ops the ships would be moving forward pretty constantly to avoid being a sitting target and to avoid the SHARs having to do crosswind vertical landings wherever possible. Harriers are very delicate in the hover in high crosswinds, which is why the yaw vane was invented for them, to allow the pilot to keep the jet pointed into wind. Hi Bootneck, an interesting painting of Hermes; those two must have been very low on fuel to approach from there. Yes, cross-deck landings (i.e. 90-degrees across the deck, aiming for just ahead of the flyco in the island or aft of the island - where no aircraft were parked (not as shown), were used when high crosswinds made a normal bow-facing landing impractical for SHARs. The normal approach, as I'm sure you know, was parallel to the carrier's port side over the sea, hover level with mid-ships where the effects of roll/pitch are minimal, then transition over the deck and get it down! SHARs would not have taken off loaded on ops during Op Corporate without using the ski-jump. The fleet was kept well away from the islands, so aircraft on CAP had a fair haul to station and a vertical take-off would have needed a lot of fuel, resulting in minimal time over the islands for the effort expended of getting two winders there. Without the ski-jump a stern take-off would have resulted in a ditching as the aircraft would not have reached flying speed for the wings to work and, without the upward trajectory, even a hit to full down nozzles by the pilot would not have enabled a fully loaded SHAR to avoid the briny beyond the stern. That's why all the Invincible class plus Hermes had ski jumps fitted in the first place, to facilitate the rolling short take-off getting them airborne rather than waterborne. Dinner calls! Cheers for now. Nick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, NG899 said: Hi Bootneck, an interesting painting of Hermes; those two must have been very low on fuel to approach from there. Yes, cross-deck landings (i.e. 90-degrees across the deck, aiming for just ahead of the flyco in the island or aft of the island - where no aircraft were parked (not as shown), were used when high crosswinds made a normal bow-facing landing impractical for SHARs. The normal approach, as I'm sure you know, was parallel to the carrier's port side over the sea, hover level with mid-ships where the effects of roll/pitch are minimal, then transition over the deck and get it down! Yep; I was ignorant of my own knowledge (which I shall put down to age-related ) of the fact that SHAR's needed the full run and the ski-slope when fully armed and/or fuelled. I was just using the view of the painting "H.M.S. Hermes in action off the Falklands", by John Hesseltine, as an example of these aircraft not always pointing for'ard/aft. Notwithstanding these comments; your model is a really outstanding piece of work Pappy! cheers Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Very nice work Pappy, look forward to seeing the finished build on a base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 On 27/08/2017 at 9:26 AM, massimo said: Really helpful!!!Thanks Pappy!!! And just to confirm, it is the same tractor I used for my Sea King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 16 hours ago, James G said: Very nice work Pappy, look forward to seeing the finished build on a base. Thanks James, I am working on it, cheers, Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just linked here after reading your FA2 WIP - excellent build CJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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