general melchett Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Not a single mad Black Sun/Thule Neu Schwabian Vril-Damen in sight sadly but plenty of empty seats. Quote Might need some major surgery on the landing gear. Actually the gear doesn't need any surgery, just turn two opposing units through 90 degrees and it's done, they all face the same direction as the base units fit nicely into the bay reveals, quite how the angled ones would retract up into the bay is another story but then look what the Russians did with that uber complex U/C on the Tu-144.... Mine will probably be a relief charabanc of the local Aldebaran shuttle service.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho590hm Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 While I quail at the effort required to depict the Modelsvit Tu-144 with its gear in mid retraction sequence, it is no more complex mechanically than adding a 90 degree sideways tilting bogie to the folding leg of an Argosy. Mind you the Mach 2 Argosy tail boom would still not accommodate the wheels! As someone once nearly said "Ye cannae break the laws of geometry, Captain" We can always pretend that the blanked off gear bays conceal a mechanism that includes a baseplate for a 90 degree rotation as soon as the base units clear the inner structure. I have not yet checked to see if the hull is deep enough to accommodate the rotated gear. On the positive side, the configuration as depicted will stop the model rolling off a table. Would they really use RLM 62 green so late in the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Well exactly, anything's possible in the insane world of 'Luft46Vriliffery', actually to my eyes the model looks a lot better with the U/C aligned. Regarding complex undercarriage retraction sequences I guess the B-58 would be pretty high up on the list too. As for RLM 62, good point though I suppose anything that came to hand may apply by then. Not sure about the 'silver' U/C legs either, plenty to ponder...I may well go down the Antarctica 'Neu-schwabenland' base 211 path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim T Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Any chance of some photos General or is you build for future publication? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Methinks Hannants are having a giraffe with their price on this beast: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SQM0001 They can (rest of rant deleted on legal advice) Even with the extortionate postage, I can get it cheaper from the US. Edited March 3, 2017 by The wooksta V2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Sorry Tim, would love to but it for a future magazine article. It certainly isn't cheap Lee, I got mine from Hannants when they offered it with a big pre-order discount...cost £30 including postage which seemed pretty reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madoc Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 And now they've come out with a "What If?" version of this "What If?" - a "civilian" Haunebu! Haunebu II Limited Premium Version Gone are all the weaponry and gun turrets. In their place are some lovely viewing portals for the passengers to take in the splendors of the Haunebu's fantastic flights! This new "Limited Premium Version" comes with a bunch of new bits to make the civilian conversion and some spiffy colorful decals as would befit the livery of a passenger craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) And this is what happened to the Revell equivalent Haunebu kit. A future collector... Pfff. Source: https://www.thelocal.de/20180619/toy-nazi-ufo-taken-off-market-after-criticism Quote Toy UFO taken off shelves for ‘teaching kids that Nazis achieved space travel’ Toys and models manufacturer Revell based in North Rhine-Westphalia has announced that one of their products, an aircraft described as a war machine during the Nazi period, will no longer be produced. A spokesperson from Revell said on Monday that the company will stop manufacturing and distributing the product, adding that criticism of it is “absolutely justified.” The German Children's Protection Association (DKSB) and the Military History Museum (MHM) in Dresden had previously criticized the product for its inaccurate representation of history. In its product description, the toy is called a “round aircraft” and "the first object in the world capable of flying in space." The description goes on to say that the aircraft can fly “up to speeds of 6,000 km/hr” and it was not produced after its test phase in 1943 due to the Second World War. Emblazoned with emblems from the Third Reich, the product is presented as a war machine from the period of the Nazi regime even though an aircraft like this never existed, according to the DKSB and the MHM. "At that time it was technologically impossible to build something like this," historian Jens Wehner from the MHM told Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) newspaper. The fact that Revell's product’s description fails to mention the aircraft never existed is risky in that people who buy it might actually believe the Nazis possessed superior technologies, Wehner added. "Enthusiasts can use this as a strategy to cast doubt on what we know today about National Socialism," the historian said. The company said it agrees with the MHM, adding that “it is in fact a legendary, extraordinary aircraft which cannot be proven in terms of its existence.” "Unfortunately, our product description does not adequately express this and we apologize for it," Revell said in a statement. A spokeswoman emphasized that Revell explicitly distances itself from any kind of glorification of wars and the Nazi period. Revell is currently looking into how a product of this nature was developed and brought onto the market. The development of a new product usually takes the manufacturer at least one year. Product managers are responsible for the development of models and toys and sometimes suggestions from fans are taken into consideration. V.P. Edited June 20, 2018 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Pancake Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 The Revell kit isn't the Squadron Haunebu II. It's the Hand & Head / Wave Haunebu. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/607754-wave-hh-042-haunebu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Goodbye and good riddance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Had a look at Amazon and the kit is no longer listed - on e-bay people buy it for silly money (well above twice the Revell asking price). Crazy people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madoc Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 The Stoopidz... it bernz... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Caerbannog said: Had a look at Amazon and the kit is no longer listed - on e-bay people buy it for silly money (well above twice the Revell asking price). Crazy people... The Wave issue of the kit is still available in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Perhaps not quite the ideal moment for Revell having to pull an expensive kit, two months after being bought out of insolvency... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Given that the kit is not a Revell original is it not likely that the actual moulds may move elsewhere as the kit may be resurrected e!sewhere? I would hope so - especially at a sensible price!😀 Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Albeback52 said: Given that the kit is not a Revell original is it not likely that the actual moulds may move elsewhere as the kit may be resurrected e!sewhere? I would hope so - especially at a sensible price!😀 Allan Ehh... the moulds are not Revell's and they never had them in their possession or more than likley not even set eyes on them, they just simply bought in a bunch of bagged shots in and reboxed the kit. I daresay there is no skin off Revell's nose in all this kerfuffle as the kits would have been shipped to the distributors and the stores by now. I can't see how Revell will be adversely affected by this, in fact on the contary, they would have have to have had to pay mega bucks for publicity like this. The residual stock of kits will shift like hot cakes, as everyone likes to buy banned merchandise. The orignal mould owners will have no problem licensing further reboxes as the kit is now hot property, in fact expect to see it soon in another guise. Thomo. Edited June 22, 2018 by The Tomohawk Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, The Tomohawk Kid said: I daresay there is no skin off Revell's nose in all this kerfuffle as the kits would have been shipped to the distributors and the stores by now. I can't see how Revell will be adversely affected by this, in fact on the contary, they would have have to have had to pay mega bucks for publicity like this. The residual stock of kits will shift like hot cakes, as everyone likes to buy banned merchandise. As I understand it - and the reported disappearance off amazon.de at least supports this -, Revell has recalled the kit, which would actually be a big piece of skin off the nose with a kit RRP'd at 50 €. If that's the case, the best they can do is let the dust settle and reissue the kit again when the dust has settled with new instructions and box. And whether this publicity is good is debatable, for Germany at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, The Tomohawk Kid said: Ehh... the moulds are not Revell's and they never had them in their possession or more than likley not even set eyes on them, they just simply bought in a bunch of bagged shots in and reboxed the kit. I daresay there is no skin off Revell's nose in all this kerfuffle as the kits would have been shipped to the distributors and the stores by now. I can't see how Revell will be adversely affected by this, in fact on the contary, they would have have to have had to pay mega bucks for publicity like this. The residual stock of kits will shift like hot cakes, as everyone likes to buy banned merchandise. The orignal mould owners will have no problem licensing further reboxes as the kit is now hot property, in fact expect to see it soon in another guise. Thomo. I knew the moulds were not Revell's but, I assumed they had obtained them for the purpose of manufacturing the kit in Germany. Thank you for correcting me. I rather suspected it would see the light of day again. I think you are right in the likely boost in sales encouraged by the publicity. It's a bit like the BBC banning a record - it virtually guaranteed it best seller and, chart topping status! I rather like this sort of kit so, if it appears under different guise at a reasonable price I'll definitely grab a couple! Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, tempestfan said: As I understand it - and the reported disappearance off amazon.de at least supports this -, Or the stock could have been bought! Thomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasman71 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Notice on the Hannants page that it is/was the top selling new item, now showing as out of stock. Maybe if or or when they do release it they’ll have a huge disclaimer on the front along the lines of “this is a plastic model kit. Any resemblance to any flying machine..living or dead...is purely coincidental. You will find enough parts to construct one Hullabaloo Weather Balloon within this box. Cement, paints, and historical accuracy not included.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Tomohawk Kid said: Or the stock could have been bought! Thomo. In German... they pulled it, but of course the stock on the market may have sold out within the last two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 22 hours ago, jasman71 said: Notice on the Hannants page that it is/was the top selling new item, now showing as out of stock. Good spot Sir! Proof if there ever was what [so-called banning] a product does. Hannants will be breaking down Revell's door for new stock. Thomo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I was told Revell sold off all their remaining stock to one dealer in one go ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) On 22/06/2018 at 10:22, tempestfan said: As I understand it - and the reported disappearance off amazon.de at least supports this I wouldn’t read too much into that, Amazon’s whole business model is based on JiT. They carry very small amounts of stock on wide range of products and rely on the supply chain to keep them stocked as demanded by sales. I very much doubt they carried more than a handful of Revell Haunebu’s in stock. Which could have equally been sold or Returned to Revell. Thomo. Edited June 24, 2018 by The Tomohawk Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 For those wanting a Revell Haunebu, now the hyperbole has died down Amazon are knocking them out at £30 with a post free option. Tommo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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