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22 hours ago, Muzz said:

3 weeks to go, better start looking out my clamps for my 1/48 Airfix kit!

It will be coming around quickly! Hope everyone is looking out their kits and references.

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1 hour ago, Col. said:

It will be coming around quickly! Hope everyone is looking out their kits and references.

Ready! :)

 

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I did the old airfix 1:72 last year, can't wait to put it next to the new one :) 

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17 minutes ago, reini said:

I did the old airfix 1:72 last year, can't wait to put it next to the new one :) 

Are you sure that's the old one?   :D   It looks jolly good to me. 

 

I built one recently for the Film, Fictional and Speculative GB.  It is nowhere near the standard of modern kits, but if one puts ones mind to it a very nice model can result, as you've just proved.  There's life in the old dog yet.  :thumbsup: 

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3 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said:

Are you sure that's the old one?   :D   It looks jolly good to me. 

Thanks! :D It's old Airfix for sure - but enhanced with some resin & PE :) For example the nose and elevator are resin. Was quite lot of work and sure, it's lacking on surface details - but I'm pretty happy with the result :)

 

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3 minutes ago, reini said:

Thanks! :D It's old Airfix for sure - but enhanced with some resin & PE :) For example the nose and elevator are resin. Was quite lot of work and sure, it's lacking on surface details - but I'm pretty happy with the result :)

Probably the same nose and elevator that I used on my model.  And you should be happy with it.  It's a rather fine model by any standards.

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Can someone tell me what's roughly the main difference between Buccaneer versions?

 

The thing is - I'm looking at aftermarket decals for the new Airfix Buccaneer S.2C kit - but there seems to be very limited options for S.2C version specifically. But what's the difference between B and C for example? Did S.2B always have the big belly?

 

I'm just weighing my options - kinda wanna do wrap around RAF Buccaneer, but maybe I just wait for the Airfix RAF Buccaneer release later this year. And do the current release as a navy bird as would be the most sensible thing to do.

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From memory, the S.2A was the RAF non-Martel capable version.  The S.2B was Martel Capable.  The S.2C and S.2D were similar designations for FAA aircraft. 

 

The belly fuel tank was a later fit on the S.2B and some S.2As.  I don't believe that any FAA aircraft had this mod.  By the early 80s, pretty much every RAF aicraft had the belly fuel tank.

 

There were lots of other modifications, such as the RWR pod on the tailplane for later S.2Bs, but they didn't change the designation.    The pylon positions were also different for Martel capable aircraft.  The outer pylons were moved further outboard.  The correct position is underneath the fifth vortex generator from the centreline.  Ths vortex generator was removed, which is an obscure identification point for Martel capable aircraft.

 

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I already dumped the idea of being able to participate here...because long time ago a new tool Bucc was anounced... so I sold the Airfix one with loads of AM.... seriously was expecting it in time for the GB

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But I managed to source a still shrink-wrapped 1/48 Airfix model this week! And even reasonably prieced!

:party:

 

So today I immediately ordered a Neomega cockpit for it..... what else should I track down apart from impossible to find resin intakes?

 

PE?

Wheels? 

Pitot?

 

Loadout?

 

I really have no experience with it, just tead it is a dog to build...

 

Edit:

just saw this tailstinger..

what do you think?

not In Stock anyways, so....

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12 hours ago, exdraken said:

I already dumped the idea of being able to participate here...

But I managed to source a still shrink-wrapped 1/48 Airfix model this week! And even reasonably prieced!

:party:

 

So today I immediately ordered a Neomega cockpit for it..... what else should I track down apart from impossible to find resin intakes?

PE?

Wheels? 

Pitot?

Loadout?

I really have no experience with it, just tead it is a dog to build...

 

Edit:

just saw this tailstinger..

what do you think?

not In Stock anyways, so....

Airfix%20Buccaneer%20TAIL.JPG

WoooooooHoo! Well done Werner :D Delighted you can join in now :yahoo:

For additions I'd say your Neomega cockpit is the best way forward and negates the need for a PE set. The pitot probe will be a good idea as those things are substancial items on the Bucc. Loadout will depend on a few factors; taste of course, which boxing you've got - Navy or RAF, and which era you'd like to model your subject in.

 

Now those tail parts are an interesting find. I'm away for a look at photos on the internet and through my reference books...

11 hours ago, Enzo Matrix said:

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:) 

Show-off! :lol: 

There's enough resin in that box to get @trickyrich excited. Plus LM tailcodes to get me excited :D 

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I got the combined boxing if I understsnd correctly... a very recent one...incl 5 schemed for RAF and Navy..

 

And a Gulf War Bucc can't be wrong, no?

I think I should have Kit's World decals somewhere as well ;)

 

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1 hour ago, exdraken said:

I got the combined boxing if I understsnd correctly... a very recent one...incl 5 schemed for RAF and Navy..

 

And a Gulf War Bucc can't be wrong, no?

I think I should have Kit's World decals somewhere as well ;)

Ooh, nice! So we'll get treated to a double-build? :D 

I'm trying to remember if the Gulf War participants were refitted with the 'Navy-style' wingtips during that campaign but at least you'll have the optional parts within the double boxing to cover that :) 

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7 hours ago, Col. said:

Ooh, nice! So we'll get treated to a double-build? :D 

I'm trying to remember if the Gulf War participants were refitted with the 'Navy-style' wingtips during that campaign but at least you'll have the optional parts within the double boxing to cover that :) 

don't think it contains 2 kits.... 

I am sure you know better though

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8 hours ago, Col. said:

I'm trying to remember if the Gulf War participants were refitted with the 'Navy-style' wingtips during that campaign but at least you'll have the optional parts within the double boxing to cover that :) 

 

The Gulf Buccs were fitted with the straight wing tips, if that is the navy style ones

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1 hour ago, Jabba said:

 

The Gulf Buccs were fitted with the straight wing tips, if that is the navy style ones

That is correct.  There was however, one aircraft which had the standard RAF wingtips.  The serial number eludes me at the moment, but I'll try and track it down.

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6 hours ago, exdraken said:

don't think it contains 2 kits.... 

I am sure you know better though

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That's certainly the double-kit box but when second-hand there could be only the one kit rattling about in there :shrug: 

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21 hours ago, Col. said:

That's certainly the double-kit box but when second-hand there could be only the one kit rattling about in there :shrug: 

You were completely right! I did not even dare to look inside.. and it was shrink-wrapped... !

Wow, that bargain gets better and better :)

 

in parallel I am reading up a bit on the Bucc.... any , still available book you guys absolutely recommend?

 

What about the pave spike? Fine enougth directly from the box?

Or LGBs?

 

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On 19/04/2020 at 20:58, exdraken said:

You were completely right! I did not even dare to look inside.. and it was shrink-wrapped... !

Wow, that bargain gets better and better :)

 

in parallel I am reading up a bit on the Bucc.... any , still available book you guys absolutely recommend?

 

What about the pave spike? Fine enougth directly from the box?

Or LGBs?

 

Eduard have just released suitable Paveway LGBs, looking to get some myself.

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8 hours ago, Muzz said:

Eduard have just released suitable Paveway LGBs, looking to get some myself.

you mean those I guess:

https://www.eduard.com/aircraft-and-helicopters/1-48/cpu-123-paveway-ii-1-48.html

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they look nice, although described as GPS/ laser guided ..... must be a mistake, no? ;)

 

 

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1 hour ago, exdraken said:

you mean those I guess:

https://www.eduard.com/aircraft-and-helicopters/1-48/cpu-123-paveway-ii-1-48.html

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they look nice, although described as GPS/ laser guided ..... must be a mistake, no? ;)

 

 

Those are the ones Werner, they look great. Not to be confused with the enhanced Paveways which Eduard have also released...

 

https://www.eduard.com/eduard/paveway-ii-mk-13-18-1-48.html?listtype=search&searchparam=Paveway

 

It does look like Eduard have got confused and put the wrong text with each product, as you point out the original ones you put the link up for are only laser guided. The enhanced Paveways are laser and GPS and recognised by the conduit for the wiring loom from the seeker head back along the body.

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I’m looking for colour profiles of the Medium Sea Grey/Camo grey colour scheme if anyone has a link, I’ve seen them before but now can’t find them. I know there’s an unusual demarcation line between the colours with only the undersides of the main wings and lower fuselage sides below the wings painted the Camo grey colour.

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