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Yes there is a subtle difference on my better halfs pc, i only use a galaxy pad, but the difference is quite pronounced on the under wing, but your right I'll go with black and white uppers, unless proven otherwise, thanks

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Well without making working time on the Hobbyboss kit every couple of week's it's going to be a quick build so thought's returning to another entry

I think Tamiya are well covered in the GB so looking at Monogram's offering the kit is easily found in Gabreski's scheme but looking deeper there seem's

to be a SEA RAF scheme as the second scheme in the box,I'll see in a week or two next time I put a King Kit order in.

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Hi all

Quick question for the knowledgeable ones here :)

I'm building mine with the flaps down as I thought it would be different to the bubble top I did

From reference pics I can see the edges of the flaps are chromate primer, but what about the top leading edge (the part unseen when the flaps are raised)

I'm assuming they would  be olive drab matching the airframe and not the primer, but could someone confirm for me please

 

Many thanks

 

Ian

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8 hours ago, Redstaff said:

Hi all

Quick question for the knowledgeable ones here :)

I'm building mine with the flaps down as I thought it would be different to the bubble top I did

From reference pics I can see the edges of the flaps are chromate primer, but what about the top leading edge (the part unseen when the flaps are raised)

I'm assuming they would  be olive drab matching the airframe and not the primer, but could someone confirm for me please

 

Many thanks

 

Ian

Olive drab. Though once they got to the D-2 they were produced in two factories so not necessarily everything was the same. I would have to do a bit more research on it. I'll have a look tomorrow through some more of my photos.

 

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I check a load more of my photos and everyone of them showed OD. I did find a 56th FG aircraft with that area looking a little lighter, but you could see the aircraft had been waxed from the sheen so would be darker than the unwaxed areas.

 

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9 minutes ago, Redstaff said:

Thanks Tbolt

 

Might apply a full darker wash on the inside part then

No the top leading edge under the wing is lighter - the wax on the rest of flap that's exposed makes it darker. At least I think that's what's going on here.

 

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Ok Tbolt I can see what you mean now on this pic

The pic inside the hangar made the top leading edge look darker to me on my phone, but it might be the shadows from the rooflights 🤔

Great chipping pattern on the first pic though for me to have a bash at :) 

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I've tried the old tinternet searches, but i cannot find detailed pictures or drawings of  plumbing for paper wing fuel tanks, and the 150 gal belly tank, can anyone recommend recommend a link or piccies, thanks

Glynn 

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11 hours ago, Hewy said:

I've tried the old tinternet searches, but i cannot find detailed pictures or drawings of  plumbing for paper wing fuel tanks, and the 150 gal belly tank, can anyone recommend recommend a link or piccies, thanks

Glynn 

I'll dig out a few bits for you later today.

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18 hours ago, Hewy said:

I've tried the old tinternet searches, but i cannot find detailed pictures or drawings of  plumbing for paper wing fuel tanks, and the 150 gal belly tank, can anyone recommend recommend a link or piccies, thanks

Glynn 

 

This is the best drawing I have which shows the connections. I don't know why on the left they says the 108 gal tank is 150 gals and under the wing the drawing says 108 gal paper tank, but that looks more like the 108 gal steel tank.

 

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This is a german drop tank, but if you go to 2:25 in this video you will see the connections going into the P-47 belly.

 

 

 

This photo show the connection to the 150 gallon flat tank. Note there where two main types, one with the folded seem as contained in most kits and this type which was welded together.

 

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What would one most expect to find under the wings & belly of a P-47N? 

 

My kit has a selection of stuff, but most of it looks more suitable for a ground attack Thunderbolt.....There are a trio of big P-38 style tanks IIRC, presumably they would be plumbed similarly to the more conventional types above?

 

Also what's left on the hardpoint once the tank's been dropped.....The P-47N would look kind of nice clean, but given it's role I'd guess maximum tankage would be the norm?

 

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Hey @Sgt.Squarehead Memory says most were strike missions, some escort. By this time there were more and more P-51’s in the Pacific. Im sure @Tbolt can give you more info. My memory says Most of the N’s were relegated to strike. I would say bombs and rockets. Something along the lines of this photo. 

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I can try and dig up a few more if you like. 

 

Dennis

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Bombs I can do, but rockets are out (I've closed the wing halves without drilling the necessary holes).....TBH things aren't going well right now, so this information might be a bit superfluous. 

 

Do you ever see P-47Ns in a finish other than NMF:pray:  

 

I'm having severe doubts about my ability to pull off NMF with the Italeri kit, the fit is shocking.....I've been fettling the wings all night. but they still only fit in one spot out of three and they are utterly without dihedral!

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Hey Sgt. Not WW2 N’s but some post war versions were quite colorful. I was originally planning on doing a post war “N” myself when i jump in next month. But have since decided on a “D”. Here are some ANG “N’s” and Reg. USAF “N’s”. 

     Heres a Tennessee ANG P-47 

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That might be a “D”? I Personslly think its an “N”. Heres a Georgia ANG. The colors are red stripe/cowling/tail fillet. 

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Pennsylvania ANG, “Eadie Mae”

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Heres “Eadie” in photos. Ownership of these i believe belong to @Tailspin Turtle. If I am wrong please correct me?

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This is probably the most colorful example of an “N”. It flew with the “All weather flying center.”  Its the top one on the decal sheet. The 3rd one down is in fact a USAF “D” stationed in Germany used in the filming of the movie “Berlin Airlift” i believe. It played a MiG. I also considered doung the Mock MiG for my entry. 

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If i can help some more let me know. 

 

Dennis

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If you do decide to go for a P-47N do not get the Italeri kit!  :fraidnot:

 

My issue is disguising the godawful fit on the underside, I think I'm going to have to use the centreline P-38 tank just to hide what I can.....I'll stick some photos in my thread later, I've completely had enough of it for now.  :shutup:

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I had planned on the Revellogram P-47N in 1/48th scale. But Im angling for a 57th FG P-47D from Italy. I might try and do both. I haven't done an Italeri kit since the late 80’s or early 90’s, for the very reasons your discovering. 

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Might I join this build? I have a Tamiya D that I can pull from the stash, along with a resin engine and PE in the mail, along with a new decal sheet. Hopefully, they'll get to me before Sept 30th, and I'll be able to finish a GB!!

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