ironwork Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Hi all Sirs, here my latest tiny beast. Absolute love for these new kits from Airfix. I still had no idea on how to proceed, this way I gave a (wrong) paintcoat to the interiors, and closed the fuselage. Then taking things a bit more calm, a bit of putty was thinned in water and spread in 1 to 3 coats into gaps, avoiding overdoing. This way only some cleaning of the excess with ethanol was enough for a neat surface on wing roots. The bomb support provided into the box,cut and resized, is welcome to build the "drop" for a camera equipped machine Cartridge ejectors pierced into the lower wing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 But, but, but... Lowered flaps on a Messserschmitt also means open slats.... A bit late but the recessed locations were gently scraped with a scalpel blade, then filed until a proper gap was created. Slats made with bent pieces of aluminium shelf (food tools), and raised with a thin plasticard strip 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossofiron1971 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Lovely work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoZG Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Hmmm, but camera equipped Emils didn't have such camera blisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory-is-in-the-Kitchen Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I'm building this one at the moment and I'm now considering putting the flaps into a raised position after seeing your note on the leading edge slats. I'd also missed the cartridge ejection ports - good spot! I shall be adding these in. Good luck with the 3 part canopy by the way, mine was a mare to fit and I have a small step on the port side front section. I'll have to gently blend the fuselage up to it. Cheers, James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squibby Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Great little kit and one of the first ones I build coming back into the hobby. I can recall that some of the bits have quite thick sprue attachments and are incredibly fiddly. I ended up snapping the control stick and the tailplane struts trying to clean them up. Also apparently that riveted strip above the wing isn't molded properly on both sides. Not that I cared back then. I'll be sure to keep up with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango98 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Ironwork wrote: " Lowered flaps on a Messserschmitt also means open slats.." No, that is incorrect, the leading edge slats (slots) on the Bf 109E series were not connected to the flaps and operated completely independently of both flaps and ailerons. Also, as MarkoZG observed, camera equipped versions of the E did not feature the streamlined belly fairing over the camera lens aperture; his observation is supported by copies of original Messerschmitt documents and drawings which I have here that clearly state that with the fitting of a vertical camera to E variants the camera lens opening was covered by a sliding door (similar to those used on the G-8 recce version). Aside from these two points, it's shaping up to be a fine model with a good job done making the extended slats out of aluminium. Cheers Dave Edited November 29, 2016 by tango98 added words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Thank you all for your comments. Slats : probably not directly connected to flaps, but all pictures I have of ground emils with flaps down also show open slats, and so I've made them. Drop shaped camera door : picture (not drawing ) at page 19 of " bf 109 aces of afrika and the mediterranean" shows an e4n of jg 27 with this feature. ( also visible on the net here ) A drawing from Valiant "bf 109 early series", attached drawing sheets at books end, although a drawing is not probative like the picture above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoZG Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The photo you provided does not show camera equipment. The fairing you see is for Peilgeraet IV (PeilG IV), take a look here: https://www.google.hr/search?q=Me+109E+Peil&biw=1280&bih=940&tbm=isch&imgil=YrPA2X2Gwz4d0M%3A%3BCR5zOlSLPZcSOM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.owl.cz%252Fen%252Fresin-sets%252F--conversion-sets-with-decals%252F--1_72&source=iu&pf=m&fir=YrPA2X2Gwz4d0M%3A%2CCR5zOlSLPZcSOM%2C_&usg=__Ddko7ozJGJBW1yT_R6pdY_c2bAA%3D&ved=0ahUKEwiEqJLZrdDQAhVCzRQKHQRbDJ4QyjcIJg&ei=YbU-WMTzFMKaU4S2sfAJ#tbm=isch&q=PeilG+IV&imgrc=IUjnFYUmLmdsHM%3A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Thank you Marko, the caption said recon camera, and I toook it for good. No other detail found on my books. Never stop learning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) IIRC,the L/E slats on the '109 are spring operated,therefore gradually closed/opened with the increase/decrease in airspeed. A parked a/c would have the slats fully open on spring pressure. I seem to remember part of a 109's pre-flight checks is to test the slat operation by manually pushing them shut with your hand then allowing the spring to open them. Edited November 30, 2016 by Miggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango98 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Wing leading edge slats(slots) on the 109E were of the Handley Page automatic design and as such were literally 'free floating' and were held closed by air pressure in flight. This system employed no locks or springs to aid the operation of the slat(s). Yes, there are many photos which show these slats open when on the ground but there are also many that show them closed and also others that show (on the same aircraft) one closed and one open. When properly maintained, an extended slat on a 109E could by closed easily by simple light finger pressure alone. HTH Cheers Dave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Well, we finally have a great culture on messerschmitt slats It seems I'm working in a reverted manner, since I've painted the interiors in a proper color, washed them with a brown-reddish filter, then more details added... Canopy will be left open, just fitted to be hand painted ( i do not like masking) in the interior color. RLM 02 obtaned by a mix of russian green and a somewhat pale dirty grey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 Although there are no specifical colors for aircrafts into the SDW range, they can be easily obtained by mixing. Yellow, ochre and naples for the nose. Blue, neutral grey and white for the underside. Khaki and raw siena for the upperside. A little color-test was made with thinned down paint before actually painting the whole upperside. Then the painting is completed with SDW shading colors thinned with a bit water and a touch of their gloss additive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Bellissimo!!! This is going to be beautiful! Re the slats, I saw photos with them closed on the ground, so that's how I left them on my model. This kit is a delight and it really portrays a 109, slats closed or open! Have fun. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Hi Jean, thanks ! Speckles finally made thinning a mix of od and olive green thinned ab. 50% in ethanol. Just a test to try out different methods for this kind of paints into a thin airbrushing. An alternative I'm also testing is the use of unthinned paint at ab. 25-29 psi. Well, I'm not the king of airbrush, but I can say myself satisfied up 'till now 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 I think that aircraft models need subtlety, and still more for this scale. That's why I prefer to go on with filters.Targets: shape enhance and add depht to colors.At first some LIGHT & FADING 2, from the range filter & wash, was gently airbrushed in the center of downside panels. To keep a coherent and uniform ensemble, it was airbrushed on upper sides too, but just subtlely along panel joints and details A bit more on landing gear, also to desaturate the rubber tyres. A little note : maybe you need to increase monitor lighting, as these are there subtle effects. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 The underside looks fantastic. I'm not so sure it works quite as well on the topside, but it still looks pretty damn good! Very nice work! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Thanks Ian Now I wanted to scale down and revive a bit the whole paintjob. Done with an subtle overall airbrushing with tone up filter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Now the whole receives a thin coat of crystal lock clear varnish as a base for the paneling job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Brush, a water-wet cosmetic sponge and metaliner Simply take some product directly from the bottle, draw lines into the recessed panel lines, and remove the excess with the wet sponge. That's all. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 That really is looking great.I've never really understood this filter thing, are they separate products sold for that purpose? Are there differant colours for differant paint colours? What exactly do they do? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie(kinda) Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 That's a lovely model and a very, VERY nice paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Hi Guys, thanks @ Ian : find all here www.true-earth.com Now some weathering. Again with SDW shading colors. A light grey mix, and sand. They are left to get thicker into a jar, for a better feathering on small areas. At first sand color is applied and feathered with a brush on tyres edges and wheel covers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwork Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 The light grey mix instead, is used to mark some detail edges, thus adding to shape. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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