exdraken Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) AMX Ghibli Italian Airforce - Kinetic 1/48 In an effort to do something again outside of this site's fantastic group builds, I started to dryfit Kinetics AMX effort. The AMX is a relatively simple plane powerd by a RR Spey engine. It was to supplement the complex strike Tornado in AMI service. Lately it saw service in Afghanistan as recce and close air support aircraft, it is deployed again against ISIS at the moment. (at Trapani-Birgi in Sizily ) the kits plastic is surprisingly hard and brittle, at least the main fuselage parts, as some external stores sprues show a different, cheaper?, molding technology. lots of parts! seperate nose with very different cannons for Italian and Brazilian AMX the Italian one has the powerful, 6-barrel 20mm Vulcan gatling gun installed....(right nose parts, but on port side ;)) so far I am impressed with what I see only few parts up until now, but many, many more to go ! more soon here! watch this space Edited December 15, 2019 by exdraken 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriskany Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 I'll follow you closely in this project 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueFlyer Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I've got my eye on a 2 seat variant so will tag along with build if you don't mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoUK78 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Very nice.... Looking forward to it. M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 KInetic has added weapon sprues from the F-16 kit. They did the same thing in the F/A-18C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 hello everybody, thanks for your interest, yes Stephen, their strategy is not totally clear to me either... you get 2 front fuselages for Italian and Brazilian Airframes, and weapons you could use the AIM-9 and the recce pod without mods and maybe the GBU-12s.. (I actually think Italy uses Israeli made LGBs on their Ghiblis!) and you get a lot of duplicated pars as well, like parts of the undercarriage, wheels, turbine, exhaust,........ you cant explain all that with ease of production and tooling imho... whatever, we pay for that I guess back on topic: I did some work on the wings, as i was most interested on how the flap and slats would look like! a complicated build with lots of fiddly parts, 6 parts for the slat alone, the wing as shown here is made up of 12 in total! looks quite o when compared to pictures of the actual plane. slats and flaps not glued to the main wing yet: cheers, Werner 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Motta Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Great choice! Just love AMX... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueFlyer Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Liking those flaps & slats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) thanks for your comments! lets start with the positiv: cockpit: main gear bay: but could somebody please explain me why Kinetic chose to have the ejector pin (marks) on the inside of all 4 parts of the full length air intakes???? i would say this is visible and un-neccesary... the not visible nicely hidden outside is flawless on the other hand ... : after half an hour of sanding I got a quite smooth surface, needs more attention though. apart form that i have no idea on how to best build them.... the parts are molded in a way that they can only be glued after being inserted separately into the fuselage... again Edited November 24, 2016 by exdraken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoUK78 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 It would be too easy..... Having the pin on the extra hidden side would remove all the challenge . The model is looking fine. Is there also some detail of the beloved Spey engine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 The instructions neglect to mention a rather important part for the Canon muzzle. They show part E41 inserted into the void with nothing to support it. Part F22 should go in from the inside to give E41 a place to sit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jessica said: The instructions neglect to mention a rather important part for the Canon muzzle. They show part E41 inserted into the void with nothing to support it. Part F22 should go in from the inside to give E41 a place to sit. Thanks! I am mostly ignoring the instructions and build sequence for this build anyway... but, I was wondering already which part to use for this or if I had to scratch something to fill the void @ Marco: there is an engine face I will show next time, and there is some fait detail to be seen deep within the exhaust tube.... not sure if that is what you wanted to hear .... Edited November 25, 2016 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Jessica said: The instructions neglect to mention a rather important part for the Canon muzzle. They show part E41 inserted into the void with nothing to support it. Part F22 should go in from the inside to give E41 a place to sit. Hi, after some time of leaving my AMX in resting, I am trying to move on.... Unfortunately spue numbers and desognation do not really fit with the actual sprue layout etc... which part would be F22? The most likely one unfortunately belongs behind the main canopy. Some exhaust ... cant find a part that would fit E41 within the part front fuselage.... Any picture anybody? Would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 F22 looks like a lopsided funnel with a small hole in the bottom. Sprue F is the one which had the intake parts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jessica said: F22 looks like a lopsided funnel with a small hole in the bottom. Sprue F is the one which had the intake parts on it. thanks Jessica! found the part on my own sprue photos... go figure here it is, or better was.... I think I will scratch something ..... so many unnecessary duplicate parts, but of course I loose one from the single sprue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I think that if you roll a U shape from plastic card, block off the end and then sand it to shape you'll do alright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 a pre Christmas update: used a part from an Mi-24 targeting system to recreate my lost cannon recess he a bit crude inside, with nose weight and filed of landing gear bay.... I also mounted the already painted, a bit strange designed air intake parts, worked better than expected the alnding gear bay white did not adhere well... another go ! - but the intakes look quite ok, (front not glued on yet !) the large tanks and pylons: quite innovative fin attachment which spares you any alignment issued! well done Kinetic!! not glued yet main components: thanks for looking and comments! happy Christmas, Werner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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exdraken Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 some urgently needed cockpit work. detail is quite good, I added some instrument decals from airscale some PE is there for the seat's harness but all in all it is quite a small bugger... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 - Well , Extradraken I'm looking your topic wih great interest as I have the single and two seater in my stash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary West Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 One to follow...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 the exhaust needed some sanding work done. as 2 are provided, I can show you before and after glued and ready to be closed rear fuselage that is how it will look down the full length intake and voila, a Ghibli fuselage appears 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 yesterday on new years eve, I dipped the canopy in future, looks nice, and it fits well! light was also quite winterly today, so I had to take some pictures .... HUD si unpainted of course... unfortunately also shows some of my not so good work with the fuselage joint quite well 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Lovely stuff Werner, the cockpit and exhaust look excellent. I really need to get another bottle of original Klear, nothing beats it imho for canopy dipping, they look fantastic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asgardiano Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 i have the two seats version of this kit ! just wonder when you will get there which color or better which shade of gray will you use ! great work so far well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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