Madhatter Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 hi everyone With the completion of my C-5b Galaxy in sight, I though this might be a good chance to step outside my usual comfort zone and try something new - a ship model. I normally don't do ships - in fact, this will be my first one (excluding the Typhoon sub). I also have the Tamiya Enterprise and New Jersey in the stash, but I chose this because I love the sharp shape of the bow and the overall aggression it emanates. Also, surprisingly, I haven't been able to find too many builds of the Lazarev online. I've found numerous Pyotr Velikiy builds - although mostly in 1/700 and a few Ushakov's but not many of the 'Laz Not that it really matters as all four of them look awesome. So, what's the kit like? Well, I really like it. I've read a few negative comments about from the usual rivet counters and Trumpeter bashers but to be honest, they were so trivial I couldn't be bothered reading more. I mean really, you would have to know the ship inside out to really notice what the hell they were on about and I am not one of them, so I shall be building it as is. I have bought and am waiting on delivery of the Gold Medal Models PE set of handrails which I think will really add to it. Upon looking at the contents, I noted that Trumpeter have molded the walls of the superstructure in clear. I have no idea why they would do that....at all! I can't really imagine anyone wanting to light it. Not sure what the reasoning behind that was but have a look for yourselves: Anyways, I'm sure they know what they're doing even if I don't I made a start on it last night by adding the small details on the bottom of the hull. Just look at that beautiful bow shape: Now, I have one big questions for all you maritime modellers out there: Is it best to paint the decks first then assemble the superstructure and attach or assemble it all together first then paint? Anyways, that's all I have for now, but thanks for looking MH 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Nice project! Not much for Russian ships, but that bow is sharp looking. Reminds me of the Arleigh Burke class. The only reason I can think of to have the bridge in clear is to give the option of masking the windows. Some people like that. Any extras other than PE, or is this a straight build? Edited November 2, 2016 by Thom216 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Thanks Thom, I'm glad to see someone is interested in this other than just me It'll be a straight build with the PE set only, although I did add some detail to the AK-130 last night (hand hold bars) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravens Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hi Madhatter, looking forward to seeing this build progress. Re. the decks. Personally speaking I have always found it easier to paint them first, and likewise with any areas on the superstructure that will be difficult to access with the brush once the parts are in place. Regards, Ross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Not see this one done before looking forward to following this build Beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h20 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 hi always fancied building one of these, so looking forward to following this build as for decks, always found it easier to paint it first then start attaching deck fittings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I have a /350 Warspite that's been sitting on the Shelf o Woe for more than year. After seeing some other ship builds going together, I'm regretting gluing the deck down before paint or the wood decking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 thanks guys I've been thinking I should paint the decks first so I will take the advice of the above The PE arrived today but I won't get back to this kit until the weekend. I still need to buy the relevant paints as well, so will try to get to a hobby shop on Friday after work. thankfully, this ship doesn't have a wooden deck! I am not too good at simulating wood finish and I don't have to buy a separate AM deck Oh - and welcome to the forums h20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) greetings all I have been slowly plugging away at this and have laid down the first bit of paint onto the hull with white primer and red underneath. I'm thinking the red maybe a bit to bright, but a flat coat ought to solve that. I have been searching online a lot for a replacement AK-130 gun turret but believe it or not, there is not one to be had in 1/350 scale. 1/700 and 1/200 yes, but not 350th! I have no idea why not. I know WEM used to have one but that's long discontinued and rarer than rocking horse pooh. So, I have had to make do with adding detail to the Trumpeter one. It's not too bad, but the barrels sit far to low down and the platform below them is missing, but I shall endeavor to make do. I have added some hand hold bars made from stretched sprue to make it more interesting I have also made my first ever PE radar set! yay for me As well as that, the aft light platform and from yard arm have been made up. I do like that yard arm - it's sooo much better than the kit blob well, that's all I have for now sorry. I'm still trying to get the right shade of orangey/brown for the top deck - I am getting closer each time but man, am I using so much paint trying to get it right. Never mind - I'll get there in the end - I hope As always, thanks for looking MH Edited November 6, 2016 by Madhatter 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Great progress, and especially nice work on the PE. Liking the progress on the tiny bits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Nice work there mate, I have Kirov in the stash so I'll enjoy this. The Trumpy ship kits are pretty good and the inaccuracies that some moan about are really quite minor, mostly windows missing or wrongly located. The AK130s look pretty good too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h20 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 hi mate coming along nicely must have a patience of a saint with all that photo-etch as for deck colour look on sovereign hobbies site, its in colourcoats sea m13 russian deck red they also do the russian surface grey colours too hope this helps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I don't think Colourcoats will work for our Madhatter, postage is expensive for the UK let alone Ozville. What's your preferred weapon of choice for paints Hatter? Russian deck red is quite a rusty orange-red. Google images of the missile cruiser Varyag passing under the Golden Gateate bridge in San Francisco for good views of the deck colour. Part of the decks will be a charcoal grey a bit like Revell no.9 Anthracite. If you do go for Colourcoats then, as h20 says, they do the hull colours too, I'm pretty sure Lazarev was Pacific fleet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 hey thanks for the heads up on the Colourcoats range. I found an Australian stockist of said range and have now got a pot on order. For those in Aus who want this range, creative stock them amongst other things. Incidentally, Its the same place I bought the PE set from as well I'm using Gunze H334 for the deck colouring. It seems to match pretty well with pictures I have 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Great news matey, and I've just been reading that the Russians are refitting these four grand ladies. Some serious sabre rattling from Putin there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 I was reading that the Kirov is far gone though to bring back up to ocean going capacity, and the Lazarev wasn't too far behind it, but apparently it's on it's way to being refitted. Wicked looking ships aren't they 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanM Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Impressive PE work! Lovely shape to this ship..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Really love the Russians for good looking ships, I also have a Sovremenny, Slava and Udaloy. Niiiiice! Even their subs are great lookers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 yeah - have to admit, I do like the Typhoon a lot! I have the HB one yet to build. I don't like their carriers as much as some of their other ship designs, but I would still like to get one just to go alongside the Lazarev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Yep, I have to agree with you about the carriers, I don't like the ramp and head on they look incredibly off balance! Typhoons are groovy too, but their best looking sub for me is the Alpha, very sleek and looks as fast as their reputation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 greetings everyone Well, work continues slowly on-wards. I must admit, I am quite enjoying the change in subject matter. I'm finding the PE rasiling a challenge - it's certainly no where near as neat and tidy as a lot of PE rails I've seen on this forum, but this is my first time with them, so I am giving myself a break here is the current progress: Just waiting on the arrival of my Sovereign paints so I can paint the decks. I will try harder to get nice straight PE railings from here on MH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 hi guys I've been plodding along with this one and have got some base painting done. Still need to touch up some bits and bobs, but it's getting there the above parts are still being painted. I'll have some proper images of those later - most likely tomorrow Thanks for looking Si 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Nice to see the paint going down and drawing all that fine work together! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginvicta Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 It's looking good. The P.E. work is really good. I wouldn't worry how some of the railings look, under a magnifier my P.E. work looks a bit rough, but from a normal viewing distance they look fine. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Nice crisp work ... Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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