Ascoteer Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Yup, yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Excellent leg work Bill. I'd say (as does everyone else) that you've nailed. And quite a tricky thing to get right too. "Paid about six quid for it from one of those "Gimmee Gimmee" catalogues we get through the door and in the Daily Papers " Careful what you purchase from these sources...a while back I bought some X-ray specs, a book on how to hypnotise people and a money making machine...none of em work 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 X-Ray Spex? Some people think little girls should be seen and not heard But I say... Oh Bondage! Up yours! Good ol' Poly-Styrene 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 20 hours ago, perdu said: Yes I get you Ced, this seems to combine some characteristics of gel but when the rubber cap comes off it soon oozes up the nozzle Good though innit? Col I could be tempted to agree with you re: the diameters, not quite so sure about the thickness But I don't have FOUR sacrificial Airfix Hudson tailwheels to snaffle from the company as official Airfix Mag editor Alan Hall was quite a guy I only have these wheels sacrificed from a Sea Knight, but I am happy to remake the whole leg device if someone can tell me how to get the wheels smaller without a lathe Ongoing model is ongoing Put a shout out in the "Wanted" section for four Harrier/Sea Harrier outrigger wheels Bill,I used 'em on mine and deemed them to be about spot-on. IIRC,Airfix 'Arriers come with two sets of iteriggers,one set down,t'other retracted. Bag four retracted(or whatever's offered)off the Massive,quick touch of the razor saw and there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Harrier outrigger wheels probably would look ok, for info though they are 13.5" overall diameter on 4" hubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 I do own a pair of bagged Airfix P1127s but I'm not disposed to scavenge outriggers from those out with the file tomorrow then Ced here's the Sea Fury awaiting love ... and paint for a second life I think it was a PJM? moulding which I'm told resurfaced from Airfix with far superior decal/transfers Because it was one of our charity comp entries I could only use what was in the crumpled box and glue and paint After the comp was over I felt entitled to do it again, better because of the comp I wasnt able to fill the wheel wells with Evergreen so I just deply scored a grid inside no beggar looked anyway And from the front, not a winning model but like all Sea Furies she looks the part 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Nice Furrie Bill - thanks for the photos. She could do with some love, when you have time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 purely 'cause I checked this on a real Lynx this morning, a two figure sizing for the main tyres, and a three figure type for the nose (which we know - a few posts back) is used. When you have the two figure tyre dimensions, they give the overall tyre/wheel diameter, and the sectional thickness, so with the Lynx the 18 x 5.5 is 18" overall diameter and 5.5" thickness. The hub itself is 8" and is not given in the size. On with Waps! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Thanks for checking James On it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Well I had considered Wessexing today but with a new challenge to play with I had a little think............. And another And came to the conclusion there was only one thing to do Make Wasp wheels out of plastic like Airfix will next year (OK OK I'm trying to up the ante here, don't moan) Sized at 15 inches divided by seventy two gave me the almost mythic size of 0.208" Search frantically for stock plastic tube at 0.200" Find some at 0.193" close enough for - well you know the phrase I knew there'd be little chance of stock Evergreen at 0.208" but there's always madness in my method Next up make a jig that covers the tyre width at 4.75" That comes in at 0.066" minus a smaller than reasonable recurring thingy to allow for size variation I made the jig work out at 0.075" which gives me a few thou to file away when I am building the bits Then I sliced five (just in case) rings of the Evergreen tube in the cutting jig Next move was to slide a thinner tube inside the outer tube, this was some of John Aero's lovely thin walled tube at 0.143" This needed pushing into the outer and was used to expand the outer tube a few thous to 0.198" Getting there so we we needed an axle rod to fit the wheel but first we needed to cut the inner tube this enough to make the nave of the wheel, for this, yes another cutting jig sized at 0.057" (Piece of sixty thou plasticard, a bit thinner than spec. It usually is) And cut out four of them for wheels When the naves are in with lots of Tamiya thin it was time to get the required 0.208" A thin strip of five thou plasticard glued to the outer rim Comparing the new wheel to the old ones and then checking the new sizes gives us trim off and close the end up And pop the axles in Most Wasp wheels seem to have one open nave and the other side has a bigger piece which I believe to be the wheel brake units so I made the naves with one side open and the other blank to the rim The tyre extensions needed filing down in this picture, it's OK I've done it now The wheels are usually bolted together with a series of nuts and bolts I am not putting them inside there sorry I will remake the caster forks tomorrow That's all folks Edited December 22, 2016 by perdu 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You know I don't like emoticons that much but those wheels deserve a Great work Bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I never tire of seeing such wheely good work round here 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Those wheels are insanely good Bill! Martian PS: What Muppet let Hendie have his joke book back? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Absolutely superb work. You're right, one side of wheel open, the insides having the 'brake' unit, which I think was more of a wheel lock ratchet affair! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Lovely job, I bet that kept you out of mischief for a good while! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 It took about half an hour to find scrap to make the jigs after twenty minutes deciding on plan A or B ( B would have destroyed an irreplaceable first moulding of the P1127) And yes two anna half hours cutting and measuring And glueing I wonder If I always use plasticard bits from scrap how come there's always scrap to use? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Your workmanship never fails to astound me those wheels are top notch. Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Great work on those wheels Bill, another one for the note book! Just a quick note on those naves, the Wasp didn't have brakes () but wheel locks, they were either on or off and operated by (If my memory serves me right) a cable and lever assembly, with the lever in the cockpit. The inside of the wheel was toothed and there was a lock plunger that engaged those teeth to lock it solid. I think there is a similar system on the lynx (naval kind not the army skids!). You wont be able to tell this as the unit is enclosed and just looks like a big disc of metal acting like a 60's hub cap, just a little bit of triviata Cracking stuff! Bob PS disappointed we don't now get a tutorial on 1:72 1/2" AF nuts and bolts! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 It's not just Hendie, I was going to put wheely good too! (They are BTW) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Blimey Bill, looks like you started 'aving a go at some bead craft, then plumped for a 1/72 roller ball exerciser. Lovely stuff. Fiddly and a lot of faff, but worth the effort. "If I always use plasticard bits from scrap how come there's always scrap to use"....mm I'll have to think that one over. Perhaps it's "evolved" from surplus milliput in the night...All that surplus milliput has to go somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I thought your scratchbuilding on the Hansom was nothing short of brilliant Bill, but those wheels are something else!! Fantastic work! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Pete in Lincs said: It's not just Hendie, I was going to put wheely good too! Noooo! Its catching! Martian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) Cheers chaps I have had a day off Wasperie and Wessexations I thought but tonight I decided that I might need the later style black tac markings instead of the older less muted style (This is a Wasp, mostly not exactly COLOURFUL after all) I took a scan from the Airfix transfer sheet, don't moan, back then no-one called them decals, and put it into Paint Shop Pro to change the whites to black which seems to be all that happened to the tail rotor warning arrows (Many of the museum aircraft in the tactical scheme have white showing through the black letters and outlines that were originally white) PSP in the very old, very free version (old computer mag give away program) I have there can be an issue with lengthening after working on items so after I got it black enough which entails leaving some of the white undercolour showing as per the real thing I introduced it into an equally old version of Photoshop 5 to resize it (PS is an easier to get right resizer so I tend to use two very old programs to save me buying anything when getting the printing right So if anyone might need the revised version here it is Full acknowlegment to the original artwork by Airfix at Haldane Place in c.1965 If you use it in MS Word you can resize this image to the exact size you need with the push/pull handles on every image selection box This is deliberately as worn as the examples in the Walkarounds and museums I am now devoting a little time to the STGB that expires in about five weeks, I think I'll be pushing it to finish the Wessex that quickly I appreciate that collecting Wasping stickers might seem a tad futile but mark my words, not only will Colin get the Freightdog wasp on the stalls next year, Airfix will be planning to gazump me already You mark my words I say, you may need different DANGER marks By the way I use both programs because PSP5 has the facility to draw straight lines in any colour you want, ideal for lettering and framing, PS doesn't have a straight line facilityin my version so PSP is more user friendly PS does have very good 'other controls' so being old and idle I combine 'em both rather than waste precious time relearning stuff, I know I'm too old for these days Too mean to buy any new programs too Edited December 23, 2016 by perdu 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, perdu said: Too mean to buy any new programs too me too. I usually get around it by buying an older version a couple of releases behind curent. I got PSP X3 for about $12 - unfortunately, by that time Corel had got their hands on it and ruined a perfectly good program. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, perdu said: I am now devoting a little time to the STGB that expires in about five weeks, I think I'll be pushing it to finish the Wessex that quickly 5 weeks! Bugger need to pull my finger out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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