Learstang Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Which one of these boxings would be best for a South African Mohawk as used in the East African Campaign? Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Of course the AZ7643 (...over CBI). The SAAF ones looked exactly like the #3 (HAL-built one). Just repaint the roundel centres orange and fit the large four digit black serial. http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/78/216/0 However the a/c used in South Africa and Kenya sported TLS of Dark Earth and Dark Green over Sky. Cheers Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Thank you very much, Michael! I already have the SAAF decals (SBS); I just needed a model for them. Best Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Released - ref. AZ7644 - Curtiss Hawk H-75A-4/5/7 - https://eshop.kovozavody.cz/10423,en_curtiss-hawk-h-75a-4-5-7.html - ref. AZ7645 - Curtiss P-36G (Hawk A-6/8) - https://eshop.kovozavody.cz/10430,en_curtiss-p-36g-(hawk-a-6-8).html - ref. AZ7646 - Curtiss Hawk H-75A-4 - https://eshop.kovozavody.cz/10436,en_curtiss-hawk-h-75a-4.html V.P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) On 3/17/2020 at 7:31 AM, Homebee said: Released - ref. AZ7643 - Curtiss Mohawk Mk.IV “Over CBI” https://www.azmodel.cz/produkt/mohawk-mk-iv-over-cbi/ Picked one of these up - as expected it's the earlier kit with a new sprue for fuselage, engine and exhaust pipes. Shape looks OK, the flared plan view of the Wright engine is caught well. The engine itself is quite poor - might see if I can find a resin equivalent (Somewhere I have the old DB productions 75-4 nose....) Other than that it's the same as the Mohawk III kit - need to check if the prop was different, photos suggest a wider, more rounded prop on the IV Decals are OK, but the reds of the RAF markings (especially the roundels and fin flash) are showing hints of the printing screen/plate check. Probably get another as I want to do one of the UK based aircraft in TLS with the black port underwing Edited April 28, 2020 by Dave Fleming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Homebee said: - ref. AZ7645 - Curtiss P-36G (Hawk A-6/8) - https://eshop.kovozavody.cz/10430,en_curtiss-p-36g-(hawk-a-6-8).html Hawk 75A-6 was the R-1830 TwinWasp-engined variant used only by the Haerens Flyvevaben in 1940 (19 a/c), Armee de l'Air (the other 5) and Illmavoimat (13 picked up by the Germans from both batches). All the Hawks flown in Little Norway centre in Canada were the R-1820 Cyclone-powered H75A-8s. These facts are well known since at least 50 years - why not by the AZ team? Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Presumably because the AZ model contains the complete original Twin Wasp Hawk (A-6), together with a new fuselage and engine for the A-8. So you can make either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 8 hours ago, dalea said: Presumably because the AZ model contains the complete original Twin Wasp Hawk (A-6), together with a new fuselage and engine for the A-8. So you can make either. Thinking this way every boxing from this new series (i.e. including both fuselages and engines) could be called A-1, A-2, A-3, A-4, A-5, A-6, A-7, A-8, A-9 My remark concerned the caption for the 2nd scheme: "Curtiss Hawk 75A-6, black 443, Norwegian Air Force, 1940", while the a/c is neither the H75A-6, nor Norwegian Air Force, nor 1940. The (Royal) Norwegian Air Force was established in 1944 - all the Norwegian H75A-6s belonged to the Army Aviation (Haerens Flyvevaben). Moreover they have never been painted "yellow green", being left in natural metal https://pt-br.facebook.com/flysamlingen/photos/pcb.1790713481016706/1790710537683667/?type=3&theater https://www.pinterest.at/pin/649292471248476691/ The aircraft pictured by AZ should be captioned "Curtiss Hawk 75A-8, black 443, Norwegian Army Aviation Training Camp "Little Norway", Canada, 1941". Moreover the "yellow green" suggested by AZ is (for my eyeball at least) probably just the faded US Olive Drab (look at the last picture with close-up of the wheel hub and cockpit area) http://www.ascalecanadian.com/2017/12/colour-hawks-of-little-norway.html Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vingtor Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) Having researched in some detail the colours on the Norwegian Hawks in Canada, I would say the green colour is not US Olive Drab. I don't know what to call the colour though. However as some photos show, it was the same colour that was used inside the engine cowling and on the engine struts. The Hawks that arrived in Norway before the war were bare metal. Edited April 29, 2020 by Vingtor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN-KEH Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vingtor said: Having researched in some detail the colours on the Norwegian Hawks in Canada, I would say the green colour is not US Olive Drab. I don't know what to call the colour though. However as some photos show, it was the same colour that was used inside the engine cowling and on the engine struts. The Hawks that arrived in Norway before the war were bare metal. The green used on the Wright Cyclone engined Curtiss Hawk A8s in Little Norway training camp could be a primer more often used for interiors, possibly zinc chromate based, I would call it apple green - much lighter and less brown than olive drab. We have colour film and stills as well as a model made in Little Norway probably using the same paint as on the aircraft and gifted to a member of the royal family. Odd numbers 401 up to 471 and Norwegian flag bands around wings and on rudder painted on when delivered, but not all of them were assembled and flown in Canada. P&W Twin Wasp engined A6 (first orders) had odd numbers from 437 and up to 485 in black and Norwegian flag colours around wings and on rudder. Some had arrived before the German invasion and were assembled at Kjeller airbase just outside Oslo, others were still in transit. Natural metal / aluminium doped fabric surfaces. So if AZ got the font right, you can use the A6 fuselage and make a model of 443 with aluminium finish to represent an aircraft in Norway in April 40 and use the A8 fuselage and finish it in your preferred green colour to make a model of 443 in Little Norway training camp. Kit(s) on order from AZ, so I can have a look and see for myself - the earlier versions were decent representations of the little Hawk. If you want to make an alternative Norwegian Army Air Arm of 1940, there are plenty of options among the aircraft they considered purchasing. Fighters: Breda Ba27, Vought V-146, Fiat CR.42, Hawker Hurricane and even the Heinkel He 100. Reco/bomber: Avro Anson, Bristol Blenheim, Fairey Battle, Junkers Ju 87. Trainers: FW 44 Stieglitz (on order, the batch was sold by the Germans to Finland so they got paid twice), Klemm Kl 35. One of my projects for retirement is going through the archives and see how close they were to purchasing these aircraft and at what terms. Italian aircraft were popular with the treasury since we had a trade surplus with Italy, while the engine specialists preferred air cooled engines over liquid cooled. Edited April 30, 2020 by LN-KEH adding 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 6 hours ago, LN-KEH said: The green used on the Wright Cyclone engined Curtiss Hawk A8s in Little Norway training camp could be a primer more often used for interiors, possibly zinc chromate based, I would call it apple green - much lighter and less brown than olive drab. We have colour film and stills as well as a model made in Little Norway probably using the same paint as on the aircraft and gifted to a member of the royal family. Odd numbers 401 up to 471 and Norwegian flag bands around wings and on rudder painted on when delivered, but not all of them were assembled and flown in Canada. P&W Twin Wasp engined A6 (first orders) had odd numbers from 437 and up to 485 in black and Norwegian flag colours around wings and on rudder. Some had arrived before the German invasion and were assembled at Kjeller airbase just outside Oslo, others were still in transit. Natural metal / aluminium doped fabric surfaces. So if AZ got the font right, you can use the A6 fuselage and make a model of 443 with aluminium finish to represent an aircraft in Norway in April 40 and use the A8 fuselage and finish it in your preferred green colour to make a model of 443 in Little Norway training camp. Kit(s) on order from AZ, so I can have a look and see for myself - the earlier versions were decent representations of the little Hawk. I do strongly support the "interior green" theory - this could be the case. Although I have no experience with apple cultivars in Norway and Canada the only apples of similar hue known to me are the Newtown Pippin and Boskoop, while in Poland the term "apple green" is usually applied to something between Golden Delicious and Granny Smith . Looking at the number blocks you listed above I understand that H75A-6s continued the sequence of pre-war Norwegian fighters (435 being the last Gladiator IIRC), while on the Canadian soil the H75A-8s started the new series (from 401 on), which made building the natural metal A-6 and "apple green" A-8 sporting the same tactical numbers possible. And I also consider the AZ kit being the best 72nd scale P-36/H-75A on the market. BTW the Mohawk/Warhawk family is the favourite WW2 fighter for me - not only as for the author of the P-36 booklet https://allegro.pl/oferta/tbu-tbiu-113-samolot-mysliwski-curtiss-hawk-75-9205764977? but also for my warbird flying experience, as in 1990 the Duxford two-seater P-40 (look at my avatar) was the first (and only) WW2 a/c I had the pleasure to fly... Cheers Michael 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN-KEH Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 The green used on the Norwegian Hawks in Canada is in my opinion close to Humbrol 151 - probably a better reference for modellers than apples. https://www.scalemates.com/no/colors/humbrol--652/151-interior-green-enamel-matt--5932 The Norwegian Air Arms got a new start in Canada and the aircraft numbering did start anew, using the same pattern as before. Trainers (Fairchild PT-19) odd numbers 101 and up Reco/Light bombers (Douglas DB8A-5) 301 and up Fighters (Curtiss Hawk) 401 and up Even numbers used on the Stinson Reliants (float planes) and other aircraft used to train naval aviators. They used funds earned by the Norwegian merchant navy in Allied service to pay for a new airforce and also aircraft for the operational squadrons in the UK. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Release July - ref. AZ7655 - Curtiss Hawk H-75A "Nordic Hunter" Source: https://beavercorp.jp/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/AZ-新商品案内-2020.05.27.pdf V.P. Edited June 30, 2020 by Homebee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Released - ref. AZ7655 - Curtiss Hawk H-75A "Nordic Hunter" - https://eshop.kovozavody.cz/10460,en_curtiss-hawk-h-75a-4-nordic-hunter-.html V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Released - ref. KPM0419 - Curtiss Hawk H-75C-1 Sources: https://eshop.kovozavody.cz/10812,en_curtiss-hawk-h-75c-1.html https://www.kovozavody.cz/produkt/curtiss-hawk-h-75c-1/ - ref. KPM0420 - Curtiss Hawk H-75A/Mohawk IV Sources: https://eshop.kovozavody.cz/10811,en_curtiss-hawk-h-75a-mohawk-iv..html https://www.kovozavody.cz/produkt/curtiss-hawk-h-75a-mohawk-iv/ V.P. Edited December 11, 2023 by Homebee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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