Reini78 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Sadly I don´t have always the time to follow my dad´s progress on his models but nevertheless I have decided to post some wip stuff. As ususal, he has several ongoing projects, on of them is this Yom Kippur War pair, an Egypt MiG-21F-13 and an Israeli Mirage IIICJ. For the MiG my dad uses the very nice Trumpeter kit with Aztec decals camo applied, used Tamyia XF-58 Olive Green and XF-55 Deck Tan, the underside colour is a selfmix my dad made some year ago. Regarding the Mirage, my dad initially started with the Eduard kit, but due to bad fit and warped parts he thrashed it and turned to the Hobby Boss kit, which is mostly a copy of the Eduard one but easier to build. Only visual nitpick of the Hobby Boss kit are the cones of the air intakes, they should be centered, HB molded them slightly too upwards my dad kept the already built seat from the Eduard kit, fits perfectly into the HB cockpit tub mostly built up already, camo applied with Gunze H310, 312, 313, 314 decaling on the MiG done, Aztec decals are a bit thicker and aren´t very sticky, my dad used Gunze Mr. Mark Setter and Mark Softer and the decals went on troublefree washing done everything sealed with flat coat now on to the rest, landing gear, armament... Edited September 19, 2016 by Reini78 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celt Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Nice work on this pair of adversaries :popcorn: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 started with the landing gear on the MiG 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Some fine work going on there. Duncan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Finally the MiG is standing on its own feet, canopy removed (was only mounted with Micro Klear for painting it together with the fuselage). Didn´t know if these MiGs had still the grey cockpit colour or already the turquoise one, dicided for the latter, paint was a 50:50 mix with Gunze H46 Emerald Green and H25 Sky Blue. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Finally the MiG is standing on its own feet, canopy removed (was only mounted with Micro Klear for painting it together with the fuselage). Didn´t know if these MiGs had still the grey cockpit colour or already the turquoise one, dicided for the latter, paint was a 50:50 mix with Gunze H46 Emerald Green and H25 Sky Blue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire1677 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Superb work your dad does mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel.H. Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Very interesting project, it starts very well, the MiG already looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 air brakes mounted, added the missing IFF antenna on the belly with plastic rods started with the decalmania 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 no more pics of the MiG, very soon you´ll see the finished one almost all decals done, sadly weren´t the newest anymore, had some problems with th triangles and had to do some repaintingin the black areas, at least it´realistic, the original ones were also applied with brush.. furthermore, my dad didn´t think if the tringle decals when he applied the pylons before....so he had to cut them into three pieces to get them on, also here some repainting necessary 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Great duo, I like that! CJ #159 participation in the October war was very short, it did get one kill on the 6th, then was heavily damaged in an aborted take off due to a punctured tire on the 7th, which put it out of the war (IIRC, repairs took about one year). The triangle recognition marking were painted on the CJ and 5J fleet when the Libyan Mirages entered the stage, about mid-war, but #159 was then back at IAI for a complete refit/overhaul. It did get the triangles in the end, when he came back to service, but latter in 1974, well after the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) damn! thanks for the info, didn´t know about that but info on this aircraft is a bit confusing, have Osprey s book Mirage Aces, there the damaged aircraft seems to wear "59" and can´t tell which engine, a profile in the book shows it with a 9C, in the IsraDecal book about the Yom Kippur war there are different pics of the aircraft which show "259" on the tail and it has a 9B engine and then there´s this pic with "159", after the repair? but why didn´t they install then the better 9C engine? Edited September 24, 2016 by Reini78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Really looking good on the pair rgds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 No confusion, 59 is the aircraft number, based on the Dassault serial. It's not true for every Mirage IIICJ, due to losses and rebuild, but it's ok for most. The first number depend on Israeli classification, that changed a lot in time. In any picture, if 59 is camouflaged and doesn't wear triangles, that's before or very early in the October war (6th or 7th) and the engine is a 9B. Damaged, it's 7th october 1973, or shortly after. In camo and triangles, that's from 1974, and the engine is certainly a 9C. As for your picture, the aircraft is out of surgery, with some mods (see the dorsal antenna). Maybe the ATAR is still a B, but technicaly speaking, I assume it's no big deal to change to the C, it will certainly be done in the next workshop, as the aircraft is not yet back to ops status. In its latter service, it was also a recce bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 thanks for the clarification! well, then my dad or I have to build, besides one for the 6 Day War, one further Mirage for the Yom Kippur War.... it´s a beautiful aircraft, so why not build more of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Brilliant modelling so far, the paint work is simply outstanding, Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 15 hours ago, Reini78 said: thanks for the clarification! well, then my dad or I have to build, besides one for the 6 Day War, one further Mirage for the Yom Kippur War.... it´s a beautiful aircraft, so why not build more of it Well, that was not my point, both kits are still representative of the october war of 1973. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 that´s right, 159 is still somehow represantive for the YKW MiG-21 gonna be finished today or tomorrow, the Mirage still needs some time a Su-7/A-4E pair will follow directly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 so, finally all decals are on the model! now on to sealing and washing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 By the way, did you compare the tail triangle decal with your picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 10 minutes ago, Antoine said: By the way, did you compare the tail triangle decal with your picture? yep, black is thicker on the pic, also wearing no rudder stripes, doesn´t matter, pic is only one moment in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Indeed. in fact, the triangles design was different between the bases when the were applied during the war. I think IDF/AF addressed this after the war, but I'm not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 the MiG is finshed, full pic series over on RFI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 While the gloss coat on the Mirage dries to continue with the washing, the ordnance is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisTheBear Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Plan on doing the same dual build, but in 1/72, so watching this with delight. And you're right, the Mirage is a beautiful aircraft so why not build some more! DennisTheBear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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