1/6 F6 Lightning

[markjames68 196]

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Thought you might like to see my 1/6 Lightning, whilst it is an RC model and of limited interest here, the cockpit is essentially plastic and scratchbuild and uses all the techniques of which we are familiar .

[S5 modeller 2,031]

That is one impressive lightning!

I'm just looking to get into rc, and that looks like a plane to aspire to!

Matt

[Deon 39]

That's a great project, I'm totally jealous. When do you estimate first flight?

[markjames68 196]

About a years work I reckon, 45 lb airframe, 64 lb thrust, 9 feet long

[markjames68 196]

The plan is whatever aspect you view this aircraft from , you won't be able to tell it from the real thing, basically all U/C wells will be detailed, jet pipes, airbrakes, brake chute ( nightmare) , it's like getting a big scale kit and adding every resin bit I can find ( but scratchbuilding it)

[S5 modeller 2,031]

Wow, that scratch built ejector seat is a pure work of art.

Look forward to seeing more of your magic scratch building work.

Edited August 23, 2016 by S5 modeller

[(ex)Sgtrafman 2,492]

Very, very impressive.

The cockpit and seat look spot on. I'll have to keep tabs on this.

Cheers

Iain

[tweeky 142]

PEC connections were on the stbd side of the seat on Lightning's. Im also certain the Lightning seat is a Mk 2 BS. cracking project tho.

Edited August 23, 2016 by tweeky

[JohnT 2,361]

Brilliant. I hope she flies well after all that work. I have not attempted flying models but understand that some are much trickier than others to master. I would be guessing but imagine the wing planform of the lightning to be a bit "interesting" for r/c?

[markjames68 196]

PSP connections were on the stbd side of the seat on Lightning's. Im also certain the Lightning seat is a Mk 2 BS. cracking project tho.

According to airfix and trumpeter as far as i know i have the seat details the right way round , am open to a couple of pics proving me wrong tho,

Basically any swept wing needs to be travelling quick as the low speed tendencies arent that good, on a model like this the, the wingloading is far from scale so they tend to behave a little better in that sense, one issue they do have tho is lateral instability, partlyndue to span partly due to sweep and partly due to anhedral so what this model does require is a gyro on the aileron to cut down on pilot workload and increase the stability

[JohnT 2,361]

I would love to see it flying Mark

Video will be required in due course

[markjames68 196]

John. Looking forward to that myself BUT after a years work and multiple grands spent, the maiden tends to pucker the old butt a little to say the least!!

[tweeky 142]

I Spent 5 years at Binbrook on 5 Sqn Check out the attached pic of Steven Haskins not where the anti g suit connection is, that would be the stbd side of the seat. also the emergency oxy bottle is on the Stbd rear of the seat.

This is a MK53 360 deg cockpit view well worth a look,www.haraldjoergens.com/panoramas/lightning/

Edited August 23, 2016 by tweeky

[markjames68 196]

Millimetre of Lilliputians over a hollow balsa core, bearing in mind belts and a pilot will be added

[markjames68 196]

Assuming we are talking about the same thing, I have this image which backs up airfix and trumpeter and my other references..

Also, apologies for Lilliputians, bloody spellcheck doesn't recognise milliput!!!

[woody37 8,037]

Wow, thought there was a typo on the scale, but nope....this is a beast. I'm glued!

[Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies 7,827]

Nice!

Is that the Airworld kit?

[markjames68 196]

Nice!

Is that the Airworld kit?

it is, not bad as a blank canvas but too much money for what it is really, amd Airworld have the worst customer service in the world, the kit and retracts were paid for , in full 3 1/2 months ago, it arrived a month after the delivery date thatbwas agreed and they ' forgot' to include 1500 quidsworth or retracts, morons..

[tweeky 142]

The green item is the PRC (not the PSP That's the yellow box the brown cushions sits on) and is on the right hand side of the seat (Stbd).

[markjames68 196]

Tweeky, you have lost me, if i have it wrong i need a simpler explantation

[tweeky 142]

Mark, your plans show the seat as being a mk 4 ....mk 2 seat in the F3 F6 and T5's.

If you've got it as per the cockpit pic then its correct

[markjames68 196]

Ahh has the seat is right, the plans were just for size of the base part

[Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies 7,827]

it is, not bad as a blank canvas but too much money for what it is really, amd Airworld have the worst customer service in the world, the kit and retracts were paid for , in full 3 1/2 months ago, it arrived a month after the delivery date thatbwas agreed and they ' forgot' to include 1500 quidsworth or retracts, morons..

I had a similar experience from a well known UK based laser cutting company a while ago. That was 8 months of compulsive lying. Similar again was an experience with a small company making parts for a fullsize homebuild aeroplane.

Whilst it's great that people do get involved in niche businesses (or else we'd have no toys to play with) I think it's easy to underestimate how much effort is needed to run a business well from a customers' perspective. It's not an excuse, but it can come as a surprise to some that customer satisfaction is partly down to the product itself and partly down to the service. You can't focus on one of these to the detriment of the other.

Anyway, your cockpit scratchbuild is looking superb. Please keep updating this thread! You're making me want to finish my Meteor.

[markjames68 196]

Seat cushions and few straps done, there's a lot more straps but pilot will need to be installed first as they interact with him, just need to do the seat details now, rivets , connectors etc

[markjames68 196]

More detail added, a fairly relentless task as this scale, the crowded look of the Lightning cockpit is starting to appear though ...