markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r482/markstephens1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/2FC8B744-B79D-470E-B026-839C70E9F1F5_zps0fjdgtdh.jpg http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r482/markstephens1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/898DB724-F704-415A-9A7A-6B04F38E12EF_zpsg6mh7nie.jpg http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r482/markstephens1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/ECFA5401-7479-4242-9297-6D9D9F5F5E42_zpsjyknxq2k.jpg http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r482/markstephens1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/6413812D-9A2F-44A0-A28F-EB2E64619953_zpsnj1jvsun.jpg Thought you might like to see my 1/6 Lightning, whilst it is an RC model and of limited interest here, the cockpit is essentially plastic and scratchbuild and uses all the techniques of which we are familiar . 1 Link to post Share on other sites
S5 modeller 1,881 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 That is one impressive lightning! I'm just looking to get into rc, and that looks like a plane to aspire to! Matt Link to post Share on other sites
Deon 41 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 That's a great project, I'm totally jealous. When do you estimate first flight? Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 About a years work I reckon, 45 lb airframe, 64 lb thrust, 9 feet long Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 The plan is whatever aspect you view this aircraft from , you won't be able to tell it from the real thing, basically all U/C wells will be detailed, jet pipes, airbrakes, brake chute ( nightmare) , it's like getting a big scale kit and adding every resin bit I can find ( but scratchbuilding it) 5 Link to post Share on other sites
S5 modeller 1,881 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Wow, that scratch built ejector seat is a pure work of art. Look forward to seeing more of your magic scratch building work. Edited August 23, 2016 by S5 modeller Link to post Share on other sites
(ex)Sgtrafman 3,684 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Very, very impressive. The cockpit and seat look spot on. I'll have to keep tabs on this. Cheers Iain Link to post Share on other sites
tweeky 229 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) PEC connections were on the stbd side of the seat on Lightning's. Im also certain the Lightning seat is a Mk 2 BS. cracking project tho. Edited August 23, 2016 by tweeky Link to post Share on other sites
JohnT 3,539 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Brilliant. I hope she flies well after all that work. I have not attempted flying models but understand that some are much trickier than others to master. I would be guessing but imagine the wing planform of the lightning to be a bit "interesting" for r/c? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 PSP connections were on the stbd side of the seat on Lightning's. Im also certain the Lightning seat is a Mk 2 BS. cracking project tho.According to airfix and trumpeter as far as i know i have the seat details the right way round , am open to a couple of pics proving me wrong tho, Basically any swept wing needs to be travelling quick as the low speed tendencies arent that good, on a model like this the, the wingloading is far from scale so they tend to behave a little better in that sense, one issue they do have tho is lateral instability, partlyndue to span partly due to sweep and partly due to anhedral so what this model does require is a gyro on the aileron to cut down on pilot workload and increase the stability 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JohnT 3,539 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I would love to see it flying Mark Video will be required in due course Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 John. Looking forward to that myself BUT after a years work and multiple grands spent, the maiden tends to pucker the old butt a little to say the least!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
tweeky 229 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) I Spent 5 years at Binbrook on 5 Sqn Check out the attached pic of Steven Haskins not where the anti g suit connection is, that would be the stbd side of the seat. also the emergency oxy bottle is on the Stbd rear of the seat. This is a MK53 360 deg cockpit view well worth a look,www.haraldjoergens.com/panoramas/lightning/ Edited August 23, 2016 by tweeky Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Millimetre of Lilliputians over a hollow balsa core, bearing in mind belts and a pilot will be added Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Assuming we are talking about the same thing, I have this image which backs up airfix and trumpeter and my other references.. Also, apologies for Lilliputians, bloody spellcheck doesn't recognise milliput!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
woody37 11,166 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Wow, thought there was a typo on the scale, but nope....this is a beast. I'm glued! Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies 12,647 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Nice! Is that the Airworld kit? Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Nice! Is that the Airworld kit? it is, not bad as a blank canvas but too much money for what it is really, amd Airworld have the worst customer service in the world, the kit and retracts were paid for , in full 3 1/2 months ago, it arrived a month after the delivery date thatbwas agreed and they ' forgot' to include 1500 quidsworth or retracts, morons.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
tweeky 229 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 The green item is the PRC (not the PSP That's the yellow box the brown cushions sits on) and is on the right hand side of the seat (Stbd). Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Tweeky, you have lost me, if i have it wrong i need a simpler explantation Link to post Share on other sites
tweeky 229 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Mark, your plans show the seat as being a mk 4 ....mk 2 seat in the F3 F6 and T5's. If you've got it as per the cockpit pic then its correct Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ahh has the seat is right, the plans were just for size of the base part Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies 12,647 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 it is, not bad as a blank canvas but too much money for what it is really, amd Airworld have the worst customer service in the world, the kit and retracts were paid for , in full 3 1/2 months ago, it arrived a month after the delivery date thatbwas agreed and they ' forgot' to include 1500 quidsworth or retracts, morons.. I had a similar experience from a well known UK based laser cutting company a while ago. That was 8 months of compulsive lying. Similar again was an experience with a small company making parts for a fullsize homebuild aeroplane. Whilst it's great that people do get involved in niche businesses (or else we'd have no toys to play with) I think it's easy to underestimate how much effort is needed to run a business well from a customers' perspective. It's not an excuse, but it can come as a surprise to some that customer satisfaction is partly down to the product itself and partly down to the service. You can't focus on one of these to the detriment of the other. Anyway, your cockpit scratchbuild is looking superb. Please keep updating this thread! You're making me want to finish my Meteor. Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 Seat cushions and few straps done, there's a lot more straps but pilot will need to be installed first as they interact with him, just need to do the seat details now, rivets , connectors etc 6 Link to post Share on other sites
markjames68 134 Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 More detail added, a fairly relentless task as this scale, the crowded look of the Lightning cockpit is starting to appear though ... 5 Link to post Share on other sites
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