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71chally Completely Obsessed Member

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Looks like some temporary happening bug. Just close pictures and start again, it should work.

Looks like you're right, I tried reloaded, logging on and off but no help, just logged on now after sometime and all loaded, thanks.

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Tanks and trucks are here (Plus some boat? :analintruder: )

Military Vehicles : new ideas and proposals:

Military Vehicles : new ideas and proposals: now it's up to you.

Here a images selection of yours proposals we have received. The final ranking will be done on the number of "I Like" that you will assign to each proposal within 6 September (10 p.m. GMT +1). The more likes, the higher ranks. Express yours preferences. Furhermore you have time up to 3rd September to vote for Aircrafts and Helicopters. Ciao.

Anyway, can somebody recognise all vehicles? Good, that Fiat 3000 (this FT-17 alike tank) is here.

So which variant exactly are we asking for John.....Do we have to specify or will Yak-9 do? Also do we need to include a photo and should it be different? :shrug:

I'd appreciate some backup for a 1/72 Humber Mk.IV armoured car if you guys felt like it. :coolio:

Is the short-list viewable by non-FB members, if so could someone pop up a linky please? :pray:

The same photo is posted on Facebook by Italeri :thumbsup2:

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I'd appreciate some backup for a 1/72 Humber Mk.IV armoured car if you guys felt like it. :coolio:

Done! Good luck! Although at 22 likes so far, it's doing proportionally about as well as my Yak-9 suggestion... :weep:

BTW, the easiest way to vote is simply to go to the Italeri Official (Facebook) Account Photos page, which is here:

https://www.facebook.com/ItaleriModelKit/photos

...but you have to be a FB member to do a "like"! A non-member can look at the scores, but can't vote.

John

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Looks like M-346 is heading the pack at the moment, followed by the G.91T and Y. Interesting.

Jay

How many models wanted they to make?

The first three?

The G.91 is nice though

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Giorgio N Blabber Mouth

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How many models wanted they to make?

The first three?

The G.91 is nice though

Based on the outcome of previous similar surveys from other manufacturers and the same Italeri, I'd say that no "winner" has any particular chance of being released as a plastic kit !

These surveys are useful to get some ideas to start thinking about but then every potential subjects would be checked for its proper commercial potential and its feasibility. Even if 5,000 modellers like a certain idea, it doesn't mean that there would be a market big enough to recover the investment in a new mould and then make a profit

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Based on the outcome of previous similar surveys from other manufacturers and the same Italeri, I'd say that no "winner" has any particular chance of being released as a plastic kit !

These surveys are useful to get some ideas to start thinking about but then every potential subjects would be checked for its proper commercial potential and its feasibility. Even if 5,000 modellers like a certain idea, it doesn't mean that there would be a market big enough to recover the investment in a new mould and then make a profit

oh Ok - hope the gina comes through

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Mama Mia,

Italeri prefer Italian subjects, Airfix prefer British subjects, Hasegawa Japanese subjects, ROG German subjects

What a surprise, we are all shocked Italian subjects are leading the Italeri poll!

Exactly. First thing I did was thinking about which Italian subjects I urgently need in scale size plastic bits. Was not an easy task :tooth:

No honestly - those I want and which are something like mainstream do exist. What I really want is unlikely: Macchi Schneider racers...

I will send them pics of these anyway.

Another thing for which Italeri is a bit famous is helicopters of course.

SKYCRANE!!!!

1:48.

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Giorgio N Blabber Mouth

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Mama Mia,

Italeri prefer Italian subjects, Airfix prefer British subjects, Hasegawa Japanese subjects, ROG German subjects

What a surprise, we are all shocked Italian subjects are leading the Italeri poll!

While many seem to think that Italeri has a particular interest in Italian subjects, this assumption is not really confirmed by a look at their issues over the last few years... actually not even those of the last 20 years !

Italeri has a relatively limited number of Italian subjects in their catalogue and most of them date from the '70s, when the company did some multiengined types. Other kits in their catalogue are previous Supermodel moulds, again first issued in the same decade. The only few Italian subjects issued over the last 10 years are the Cr.42 (72 and 48), the 1/48 Mc.200 and Re.2002, the 1/72 Sm.79, Mangusta and Marsupiale and maybe the Re.2000 (that is little more than a modified Supermodel mould).

Italeri is really specialised more in modern subjects rather than in Italian ones, and they've done plenty of them over the years. Helicopters too are one area where they have done a lot of kits. Italian subjects ? A few...

Regarding the poll, the fact is that Modellers from Italy (and not only) are voting for the subjects they'd like to see. so Italian subjects.. again assuming that Italeri being Italian would be the first to offer such subjects. Me, call me cynical but I'd put my money on some Chinese companies doing certain Italian subjects well before Italeri start thinking about it

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The only few Italian subjects issued over the last 10 years are the Cr.42 (72 and 48), the 1/48 Mc.200 and Re.2002, the 1/72 Sm.79, Mangusta and Marsupiale and maybe the Re.2000

Well I am glad you do not see a perceived bias Giorgio, but I think Nationalistic bias is real and present (I am not saying it is a bad thing as some kits simply would not be produced without nationalistic bias - look at the new tool Hasegawa Emily due in December for example or the new tool Airfix Victor or all the Trumpeter Chinese releases that no body else does!)

Now then regarding Italeri releases over the years you might be overlooking many, many kits not to mention boxings of Foreign types with Italian markings - Merlin variants, all the Caribineri/Navy/Airforce Augusta Bell variants, Macchi MBB 339, Macchi MB 239, Frecci Tri calori special anniversary releases, and the list goes on, have a look at the ground releases as well, and the ship releases... God I just bought the LAPD Bell 206 and guess what it comes with Italian Police Markings! Give me a break!

Just for arguments sake - which company has released the most Italian subjects and/or boxings/variants with Italian markings over the years in every scale?

Are you seriously telling me its not Italeri by a mile? :banghead:

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It's not a matter of nationalistic bias but of offering products that can have success in whatever the main market for a company is. Hasegawa sells most of their kits in Japan, it makes financial sense to offer Japanese subjects.

Italeri however may offer Italian decals in their kits, but Italy is in reality not a big market for plastic kits ! Hence Italeri may always have an italian option in the decal sheet but don't necessarily expect from them a new mould of an Italian built aircraft ! The same helicopter that includes Italian Police markings also have markings for a US operated machine.. and this one is on the cover, not the Italian one

Actually most moulds you mentioned are not even Italeri own... the Frecce Tricolori set is an example: Supermodel MB.339, Academy Sabre, Revell G.91... a good way to be able to offer a set to all Frecce enthusiasts without having to invest in new moulds. If Italeri was partial to Italian subjects they'd have done their own G.91 years ago instead of reboxing the Revell one in 1/72 and the Esci kit in 1/48.

At the same time Italeri has recently issued a Sunderland and a Stirling... where's the Piaggio P-108 ? Where's a new G.55 ? What about a Re.2005 ? None available from Italeri, all available from Czech manufacturers. The matter is simply that Italeri (like pretty much all other companies) do their maths and see what can sell in all their markets. If they believe that a Stirling is going to be more succesful than an Italian bomber, this is what they make.

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It's not a matter of nationalistic bias but of offering products that can have success in whatever the main market for a company is. Hasegawa sells most of their kits in Japan, it makes financial sense to offer Japanese subjects.

Italeri however may offer Italian decals in their kits, but Italy is in reality not a big market for plastic kits ! Hence Italeri may always have an italian option in the decal sheet but don't necessarily expect from them a new mould of an Italian built aircraft ! The same helicopter that includes Italian Police markings also have markings for a US operated machine.. and this one is on the cover, not the Italian one

Actually most moulds you mentioned are not even Italeri own... the Frecce Tricolori set is an example: Supermodel MB.339, Academy Sabre, Revell G.91... a good way to be able to offer a set to all Frecce enthusiasts without having to invest in new moulds. If Italeri was partial to Italian subjects they'd have done their own G.91 years ago instead of reboxing the Revell one in 1/72 and the Esci kit in 1/48.

At the same time Italeri has recently issued a Sunderland and a Stirling... where's the Piaggio P-108 ? Where's a new G.55 ? What about a Re.2005 ? None available from Italeri, all available from Czech manufacturers. The matter is simply that Italeri (like pretty much all other companies) do their maths and see what can sell in all their markets. If they believe that a Stirling is going to be more succesful than an Italian bomber, this is what they make.

The fact is the statistics show that Italeri is producing Italian subjects/variants/decals/boxing out of all proportion to other main manufacturers!

What a coincidence Italeri is Italian, at the risk of repeating myself, pretty much the same national bias is borne out by the other main manufactures Airfix - British, Hasegawa - Japanese etc...

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I think an M-346 is a good subject for any manufacturer, it has a few users and hopefully more in the future.

It can also be loaded with bombs and other ordinance so it is not just a trainer.

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I think an M-346 is a good subject for any manufacturer, it has a few users and hopefully more in the future.

It can also be loaded with bombs and other ordinance so it is not just a trainer.

How significant are the differences between M-346 and YaK-130?

I know they are - but is it feasible to produce a number of alternative parts to build any of these from one set of sprues? Or fuselage and wing are so different that the spruces will have zero parts in common?

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I'm pleased to see that the SIAI SF-260 that I recommended went over 200 votes, I wasn't sure to expect that much.

I am rather surprized to see the Hawker Hunter sitting at over 450 votes. We have workable kits of the Hunter in all major scales and it wasn't that long ago that Italeri reissued the Academy 1/48 kit of the beast.

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I'm pleased to see that the SIAI SF-260 that I recommended went over 200 votes, I wasn't sure to expect that much.

I am rather surprized to see the Hawker Hunter sitting at over 450 votes. We have workable kits of the Hunter in all major scales and it wasn't that long ago that Italeri reissued the Academy 1/48 kit of the beast.

The 1:72 Revell has been OOP for a long while now, certainly isn't widely available and fetch crazy prices on ebay. Time for a reissue, perhaps Italeri can help out.

Jay

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And here goes results

Dear Friends, Here below the most pictures with the highst number of "I like" : categories Aircrafts and Helicopters. Now, the proposals, not only the most voted but all the requests we have received from you, will be analysed by our Research & Development team. Thanks a lot for all idea and advises we have received. Continue to follow us on our FB page and our social network profile for all news and updates.

1) Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master

2) Hawker Hunter

3) Fiat G.91

4) Mangusta

5) Cobra (some newest variant)

6) Cougar

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