Stonar Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 As per the title. What were these made from on aircraft like the Hurricane, Typhoon and Tempest, one of the latter being my current victim. Were the walkways just a special paint, which would therefore wear like paint, or some other material? This seemingly simple question has me flummoxed. I have looked through several books but to no avail. Thanks for any help with this. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don McIntyre Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Not sure about the WW-2 aircraft, but when I was flying the walkways were covered with non-skid material. It looked and felt like black 320 grit sandpaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I think it was some type of paint with "grit" mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) The modern non-skid is gritted paint, with a texture akin to a cheese grater. I remember well, the amount of skinned knees caused by trying to run up wet and muddy Merlin ramps in Iraq...... When I have worked on classic aircraft though, I have replaced walkways with a gritted black form of aluminium tape (speed tape). Not entirely sure of how it was done back in the day though. Edited August 16, 2016 by paul_c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonar Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Thank you for the replies. I'm still not sure what the 'strips' were, but I don't think that I'll be chipping them Luckily I never do black as black, so dark grey is fine. It seems an odd area to put a drag inducing non slip material on a high performance fighter, maybe why that's why they didn't extend to the leading edge, but there you go. Cheers Steve Edited August 16, 2016 by Stonar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303sqn Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Berger Walkway Carburundum Enamel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 It seems an odd area to put a drag inducing non slip material on a high performance fighter, maybe why that's why they didn't extend to the leading edge, but there you go. Cheers Steve The walkways don't usually extend beyond the front spar, to avoid skin damage and rarely is the cockpit forward of that area I doubt the walkways added much more drag above that of a production standard wing construction Doesn't help here, but post-war non slip walkways were a textured paint, according to the paint AP the substance could be mixed with any airframe colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakar Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 When I ran the Corrosion Control / Metal shop at VMGR-234, I applied a lot of them. There were two stiles. One stile was a 6" wide tape that was basically a plasticized 40 grit sandpaper. The other is a epoxy paint that has silica sand added to it that we put on with a paint roller. The tape is used very rarely and ONLY on the interior of the aircraft. The paint is used on the exterior or interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonar Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thanks again. The consensus would seem to be that the WW2 walkways were a special paint rather than a material 'stuck on' to the wing surface. Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 When you look at photos of Hurricanes there's clearly a separate panel for the walkway which is painted with anti slip paint. But it also acts as a reinforcement for the fabric or metal wing surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakar Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 The reason you would never use a "stick-on" material externally is because it could peal off in the slipstream. However having said that, all of our national insignia were stickers not painted on. That is on subsonic aircraft that used the Red-White-blue insignia. supersonic aircraft had everything painted on. Once we went to the two tone cammo than everything was painted on also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) P36 : non skid paint, contains carborundum powder H75 french, H87, P40 : Linoleum (Green "AeroFloor", 1/16 thick) P51B & C: non skid paint Hawker Typhoon: rubber sheet (Wondergrip rubber), from 42 the walkways was (over?)painted " A satisfactory painted on walkway has been developed at Langley and tested in service. This is now applied to all production Typhoons" Hampden : Wondergrip MS 406, D520: rubber sheet(Wondergrip) Edited August 17, 2016 by BS_w 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonar Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Hawker Typhoon: rubber sheet (Wondergrip rubber), from 42 the walkways was (over?)painted " A satisfactory painted on walkway has been developed at Langley and tested in service. This is now applied to all production Typhoons" That is great information. It also suggests that on a later Hawker aircraft, and successor of the Typhoon as in my subject, that 'satisfactory painted on walkway' would have been applied. Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakar Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 If the walkways were black, The substrate is made of a mix of Tar and Soregum with a grit added to it. Thined out with a solvent such as Gasoline, Mineral spirits, Acetone or Turpentine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBBates Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) P36 : non skid paint, contains carborundum powder H75 french, H87, P40 : Linoleum (Green "AeroFloor", 1/16 thick) P51B & C: non skid paint Hawker Typhoon: rubber sheet (Wondergrip rubber), from 42 the walkways was (over?)painted " A satisfactory painted on walkway has been developed at Langley and tested in service. This is now applied to all production Typhoons" Hampden : Wondergrip MS 406, D520: rubber sheet(Wondergrip) While not the best ..this crashed Tomahawk wing photo gives some idea of the material applied.. in this case not a paint to but a strip of material applied ( per BS_W post a Linoleum Green "AeroFloor", 1/16 thick)..to the wingtop.... also note mount points for the medal strip around the edge Edited August 29, 2016 by HBBates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Hello Hume, how are you In the different manual service P40, P40B, C and G it is wrote "walkways: linoleum covered walkways are provided..." it was cemented on the skinon the picture of wreck, as you wrote, the binding strips are lost but we can see the holes of screws along the edges of walkway. Another interesting, on this a/c, the camo paint covered the walkway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBBates Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hello Hume, how are you In the different manual service P40, P40B, C and G it is wrote "walkways: linoleum covered walkways are provided..." it was cemented on the skin on the picture of wreck, as you wrote, the binding strips are lost but we can see the holes of screws along the edges of walkway. Another interesting, on this a/c, the camo paint covered the walkway Hello Sosthene ..Im doing fine, just moved to Las Vegas in June, near Nellis AFB, how are you? What manual service were you finding that in? I was looking through mine and not finding. Do you have the TO number and page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) P40: 01-25CD-2 service 09-25-40 and 9-20-40 page 23 P40G: 01-25CD-2 service 12-20-41 page 21 P40B: 01-25CD-2 service 03-15-41 page 23 Edited August 30, 2016 by BS_w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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