DaveyGair Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Quick question for everyone since this is my first armor build in two years. I don't have access to any of my old books. I need an opinion in an open topped vehicle like the Achilles would the interior under the open turret still be white ? Or would it match the exterior Camouflage ? There is a good photo looking into the top of an Achilles in my copy of 'British tanks in Normandy' which suggests the inside of the turret was left Olive Drab, the lower hull was white (very weathered!). Some interior stowage bins and fittings would be OD as well. There are no interesting schemes in either this book or the 'Tank Power' book, just overall green (SCC2 or whatever the late war british green was?) . One vehicle has that white disruption scheme on the 17pdr to fore-shorten it seen on a lot of Firefly's. Hope this helps. Davey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 It does Davey ... good to know about the white disruption pattern on the 17 pounder. I had planned on doing that if i opt for any of the British/Commonwealth schemes im contemplating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm not that familiar with the M10, but in British service they would remain in American olive drab finish. The Achilles was an up-gunned version with the 17-pdr, these could very well have been repainted in SCC15 - or maybe just a partial repaint? Looking at period photos, standard finish appears to be a single overall colour, though artwork from both books and model kits would have you think otherwise? regards, Jack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, JackG said: I'm not that familiar with the M10, but in British service they would remain in American olive drab finish. The Achilles was an up-gunned version with the 17-pdr, these could very well have been repainted in SCC15 - or maybe just a partial repaint? Looking at period photos, standard finish appears to be a single overall colour, though artwork from both books and model kits would have you think otherwise? regards, Jack After major overhaul/rework the instructions were to completely repaint the vehicle. I expect this would be adhered to rigidly. M10 would certainly be Olive Drab regardless. As the 17pdrs were converted late they would all be SCC.15 as you state. In British service, at least, the turret interior was green, the hull below the trackguards would be white with dark coloured floor, possibly OD. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Sleeper, thank you for confirming the SCC15 repaint for the Achilles. Would the entire repaint be correct for the Firefly as well? regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Now I’ve heard of SCC15 but not quite sure on it. Its supposed to be darker than olive correct ? Can someone give me an idea ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Essentially the SCC15 when new, would be very close to the American olive drab. Only after exposed to the elements would the difference be more noted. I have seen it stated that the British paint would gain a more green hue, while it's American counterpart fades toward brown? Starmer's Tamiya mix: 5 parts XF81 1 part XF58 1 part XF71 ... and this is what my results look like, taking into consideration screen settings, lighting, etc. First pic was the initial coat, middle pic has some colour filters, and last one has the works thrown at it. regards, Jack Edited December 30, 2017 by JackG 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonhoff Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 SCC15 can also be done using equal amounts of Vallejo Model Colour 888 Olive Grey and 924 Russian Uniform WW2.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Quick question folk's,I'm enjoying a few Matchbox armour builds over in the on-going GB right now would their or Revell's re-box ofthe Priest be eligable for this GB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 @stevej60 ... im not a host. Though it is the proper chassis so i would think yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, stevej60 said: Quick question folk's,I'm enjoying a few Matchbox armour builds over in the on-going GB right now would their or Revell's re-box ofthe Priest be eligable for this GB? You've produced some lovely builds in that GB Steve, a Matchbox/ Revell priest would definitely be welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 20 hours ago, Bullbasket said: Anyone doing a Tamiya kit in 1/48th and they'd like something different, have a look at MR Modellbau site. They do a few bits and pieces such as very early VVSS and T-51 rubber block tracks. John. Thanks! Interesting how much there actually is available! http://www.mrmodellbau.com/_shop/index.php?cPath=45_83 Mabe a bit too much gor a newbe though 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 14 hours ago, JackG said: Sleeper, thank you for confirming the SCC15 repaint for the Achilles. Would the entire repaint be correct for the Firefly as well? regards, Jack Hi Jack Yes it would. Except for those built in the US for the US Army in Europe (but never issued AFAIK). I can confirm Bonhoff's alternative mix as well. That was discovered by my good friend @Shermaniac For those interested in alternative bits there's also Friendship Models who do some nice stuff. I have a fair bit of it. He also has the Fighting 48 track set masters if you want to give him a nudge about getting them on the market 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadbear Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 17 hours ago, DaveyGair said: There is a good photo looking into the top of an Achilles in my copy of 'British tanks in Normandy' which suggests the inside of the turret was left Olive Drab, the lower hull was white (very weathered!). Some interior stowage bins and fittings would be OD as well. There are no interesting schemes in either this book or the 'Tank Power' book, just overall green (SCC2 or whatever the late war british green was?) . One vehicle has that white disruption scheme on the 17pdr to fore-shorten it seen on a lot of Firefly's. Hope this helps. Davey. On the subject of M10s and in fact most opened US AFVs, such as the M8/M20 armoured cars the interior of the hull was overall gloss white with the floors visible from above painted olive drab. Open turrets were OD inside and out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 hours ago, Ozzy said: You've produced some lovely builds in that GB Steve, a Matchbox/ Revell priest would definitely be welcome. Many thank's Ozzy I think for a start we'll go with that,after looking around I'm very tempted to give Heller's kit a go in both form's the smaller scale is a more sensible as thanks to the BM massive's voting I'm interested in just about every damn GB for the year! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, stevej60 said: Many thank's Ozzy I think for a start we'll go with that,after looking around I'm very tempted to give Heller's kit a go in both form's the smaller scale is a more sensible as thanks to the BM massive's voting I'm interested in just about every damn GB for the year! I know what you mean about which GB's to take part in this year, I'm wondering what to do too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 hours ago, exdraken said: On 12/30/2017 at 5:22 AM, Bullbasket said: Anyone doing a Tamiya kit in 1/48th and they'd like something different, have a look at MR Modellbau site. They do a few bits and pieces such as very early VVSS and T-51 rubber block tracks. John. Thanks! Interesting how much there actually is available! http://www.mrmodellbau.com/_shop/index.php?cPath=45_83 Mabe a bit too much gor a newbe though Thanks for the tip, I will definitely catalogue this for future reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 While I've not seen MR Modellbau's 1/48 stuff, I do have a few of their 1/72 items (including a couple of their Jagdtigers) and they are very good indeed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Ok Im thinking of black basing this paint scheme. That will be a first for me as well. I’ve seen it done online and in photo’s. Any tips from someone thats actually done a paint job on a tank this way ? Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 The Sarge's celebrations have begun (I can feel the coherency of my posts deteriorating and I'm having to edit everything three times regardless), I don't really do Christmas, but I do new-year kinda big-style, so I'll be signing off now! I'll try to pop back later, but in case I don't make it.....A very happy new-year to you all! It's a genuine pleasure to know you guys. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Enjoy Sgt. 🎉🎊👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledon99 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Have fun. Happy New Year!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Happy new year to you all, were on our second page of builds now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftScience Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 A big thank-you to the mods for hosting this GB. I have a small crop of M3 and M4 mediums in my stash, and am thrilled to participate. My first entry is Takom's M3 Lee, and if time permits, I'll see about sneaking in a sherman later. Woohoo! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Great i can see a Takom Lee getting built 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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