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I don't have either kit but he GR. 4 boxing would probably be nest. The Saudi Tornados were assembled at Warton and wore British serial numbers prior to delivery. IIRC they were pretty much identical to the RAF's GR. 1s, so leave off the GR. 4's starboard under nose fairings and install both Mausers. Weapons like Storm Shadow and ALARM wouldn't be appropriate for this era. Hopefully someone who knows more and better than I wil be along soon.

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The Gr4 kit would certainly do the job provided that kit has the port side cannon port, I think it probably will. You would also have to backdate the front cockpit to replace the square shaped MFD for the original round shaped moving map display. Quite sure someone out there will have the part if they've used a AM cockpit.

Muzz

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I don't have either kit but he GR. 4 boxing would probably be nest. The Saudi Tornados were assembled at Warton and wore British serial numbers prior to delivery. IIRC they were pretty much identical to the RAF's GR. 1s, so leave off the GR. 4's starboard under nose fairings and install both Mausers. Weapons like Storm Shadow and ALARM wouldn't be appropriate for this era. Hopefully someone who knows more and better than I wil be along soon.

No Port or Starboard on the Tornado .... Left and Right :-)

ALARM is appropriate

No GPS antenna on pre-TSP RSAF Tornado

The rear cockpit displays are different (CRT) TV Tabs not (AMLCD) TV Tabs, CRPMD not TARDIS

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The only difference between the IDS and GR 4 boxing is the infamous missing clear bit 173 that goes on the underside thingy of the RAF birds.

And obviously weapons and decals so I'd go for the cheapest one you can find.

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The only difference between the IDS and GR 4 boxing is the infamous missing clear bit 173 that goes on the underside thingy of the RAF birds.

And obviously weapons and decals so I'd go for the cheapest one you can find.

That's not correct, the Gr4 boxing has the RAF specific pylons (I'm not sure which ones the Saudi's use), the FLIR chin pod (not required for an early Saudi airframe) and a new spine with the GPS antenna (not required for an early Saudi airframe nut the early spine is also included), new cockpit console and yes the clear part.

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That's not correct, the Gr4 boxing has the RAF specific pylons (I'm not sure which ones the Saudi's use), the FLIR chin pod (not required for an early Saudi airframe) and a new spine with the GPS antenna (not required for an early Saudi airframe nut the early spine is also included), new cockpit console and yes the clear part.

RSAF Tonkas used the same MACE pylons as RAF aircraft.

As for weapons ALARM, JP233, UK 1000lb bombs BL755 clusters, and PW II (UK) would all be appropriate for the RSAF.

Selwyn

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The only difference between the IDS and GR 4 boxing is the infamous missing clear bit 173 that goes on the underside thingy of the RAF birds.

And obviously weapons and decals so I'd go for the cheapest one you can find.

He will, don't worry :bye:

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Thanks again for all of the very well informed input (apart from Andy's smart bottom, but correct, comments).

As Selwyn says the RSAF Tonka's did indeed carry JP233's and used them on the opening attacks of the 91 Gulf War.

Looks like the GR4 kit is the route to go for a Saudi bird, I will use my impending Ebay purchase of an IDS for a Marineflieger aircraft so no problem there, just need to source some decals.

Slater I couldn't agree more, I really like the Saudi desert scheme (not the boring new grey scheme) and it will sit well next to my Iranian aircraft in the Asia Minor scheme.

Pete, thanks for the heads up, I've checked out his builds and want to build one even more now!

Craig.

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Thanks again for all of the very well informed input (apart from Andy's smart bottom, but correct, comments).

As Selwyn says the RSAF Tonka's did indeed carry JP233's and used them on the opening attacks of the 91 Gulf War.

Looks like the GR4 kit is the route to go for a Saudi bird, I will use my impending Ebay purchase of an IDS for a Marineflieger aircraft so no problem there, just need to source some decals.

Slater I couldn't agree more, I really like the Saudi desert scheme (not the boring new grey scheme) and it will sit well next to my Iranian aircraft in the Asia Minor scheme.

Pete, thanks for the heads up, I've checked out his builds and want to build one even more now!

Craig.

If you can find a sheet (and it is a big if) Aviation Workshop did a Tornado at War decal sheet which included a Saudi aircraft.

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If you can find a sheet (and it is a big if) Aviation Workshop did a Tornado at War decal sheet which included a Saudi aircraft.

Thanks Jabba,

I believe they are a bit like rocking horse poop to find.

Print Scale do a Tornado set which has them on but I don't know how accurate it is, and Caracal are releasing a sheet soon which I might just pre-order.

Craig.

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Thanks for posting the topic Craig, I want to build the same Saudi jet too! :D Maybe one with 8x1000lbs, not sure but will go with the GR4 kit too then. BTW Hahen do some very nice Marineflieger Tornado decals if you are searching, for both (3 I think actually) schemes.

Cheers,

David.

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Thanks for posting the topic Craig, I want to build the same Saudi jet too! :D Maybe one with 8x1000lbs, not sure but will go with the GR4 kit too then. BTW Hahen do some very nice Marineflieger Tornado decals if you are searching, for both (3 I think actually) schemes.

Cheers,

David.

Thought it might interest you David, especially if I threw the word "Marinefllieger" in as well!

I've seen the HaHen decals and they look fantastic, and will probably be ordered before too long. It amazes me that nobody else produces decals for either Luftwaffe or Marineflieger colours (other than in "special" schemes :mental: ), I know that Wingman has a set for the modern Luftwaffe colours but I prefer the older "greener" schemes.

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From my experince Hahen decals are great, probably the thinnest I've ever used, though sometimes depending on the colours they can be a maybe a little transparent, either way I think they are the best bet for AM Marineflieger decals. Yeah I agree, wish the Cold War Luftwaffe decal options would be increased, a lot of them seem to be short run or long OOP, lucky we have Hahen I guess!

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