PZRGREN Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Great work...I'm also interested in how you do the base. Have you cut into the base, as it is full hull? Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Out of curiosity, how close is the design of the Tribal class to the H class? They look outwardly similar to a non nautical persuasion. I ask this as it has ben a long term ambition to build HMS Hardy, my Great Uncles ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelholic Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Although having a similar layout, the Tribals and H class were very different. 'Tribal' 'H' class displacement 1,870 tons 1,340 length and beam (feet) 377, 36.5 323, 33 machinery 44,000hp, 36.5 knots 34,000shp, 36 knots guns 8 x 4.7" (4x2) 4 x 4.7" (4x1) 4 x 2pdr (1x4) 20mm (various) 20mm (various) torpedo tubes 4 x 21" (1x4) 8 x 21" (2x4) later 1x4 complement 190 145 Figures are a bit rough and ready because they might be a mixture of: 'design', 'as built' and after wartime modifications. In 1:350 scale a 'Tribal' is 328mm long and an 'H' is 281mm. Tom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Thanks for that. Like I said, I don't realy know ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Tom thank you for that information will have to keep that in the little book as a reminder John_W if you want to build an H class then Atlantic models do a version for HMS Hesperus not sure as to how close this would be to hardy maybe some difference in armament? Bangor Lad and PZRGREN I will try and do a small how to do the water but you can also look at this builds that give an explanation http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234997894-bby-1144-u-boot/& Beefy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugle07 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Looking really at home in the sea scape beefy, can't wait to see he end result! On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:42 AM, John_W said: Out of curiosity, how close is the design of the Tribal class to the H class? They look outwardly similar to a non nautical persuasion. I ask this as it has ben a long term ambition to build HMS Hardy, my Great Uncles ship. John, you can get a 1/700 resin model of HMS Hardy from Niko, she was the H class leader and as such was a bit longer and wider than the others of the class, plus had an extra 4.7 gun mounted in between the funnels. Geoff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 FULL DAY OF BUILDING TODAY all the DIY jobs done for a while So for them that want to know how I do my water it is a mix of different methods that I have sort of mixed together to suite me it may not work for everybody First I have a suitable base made this can also just be a cut piece of hard board then I build the sides up to the size I need in the case of Huron I used some 30 mm profile plane beading this gives me a frame to put the water in or should that be the building insulation foam or Kingspan The foam is then cut and shaped to form the basic wave shape I then cut out the shape of the hull to put the ship in I like to keep the full hull so that when I create the waves you can still see parts of the hull as though the waves are moving above and below the waterline When I,am happy with the basic shape of the waves I cover the foam in tissue paper fixed with PVA glue or wood glue I then cover the surface of the waves with clear silicone sealer cheap stuff from the local DIY store stippling the silicone before it sets at the stern to make the wake effect When this is all dry after a couple of days I then paint the silicone with Enamels using a various mix of blue and greens and grey to set the ship into the base I use more silicone and then cover the whole base with Deluxe materials Making Waves this gives the deep shine to the water and also helps to harden the top layer for when the naughty people at the shows try and stick their fingers in to it to see if it is wet HTH Back to the build now using some small chain for the anchors not sure about using the PE as it looks flat will paint the chain an iron color and give it a rusty wash Beefy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Nice clear tutorial Keith Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Thanks Kev hope it helps those that want to try a seascape Well anchor chains fitted and painted some touch up needed Also started on the side rails Beefy 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginvicta Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It's looking good Beefy. I'll have to try following your guide to seascapes, Cheers Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugle07 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Really good, clear, concise tutorial Beefy. Will be (stealing) trying that soon. Huron is looking the part now, anchor chains and the rails are looking spot on. Geoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Thanks Andy and Geoff feel free to use the idea hope you have a lot of fun with it OK got the rails all fitted and the ships boats I know that the kit ones are incorrect so I have covered in tissue also I have used a generic rail set from Atlantic models so that I can use the rails out of the tribal set for my Eskimo build Ship now setting in more silicone and then I can add rigging and the 4 barrel Pom Pom Beefy 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Great progress.......... Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin56 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Looking fantastic as always Keith, another impressive "Beefy 66" seascape coming along. This is a hurdle I am still plucking up courage to take. May be a little too high for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Looks lovely - Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 I have added a layer of Making Waves and when this was dry I added wight to the wake swell will now add another coat of the making waves to seal it all in Beefy 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 1 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Good work, nice looking destroyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Thanks Rob Well been working on the aft mast used some brass tube and the kit PE for the antennas Also made a start on the 4 barrel Pom Pom what was I thinking Next to the kit parts Beefy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Small up date Pom Pom built up why did I think of doing it that way Got to admit it was hard work very delicate but it does look better Also started to add the mast Halyards using thin copper wire from a old relay And painted the name plate up Beefy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugle07 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Need to aquire an old relay. Really good PE work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Build now complete and in RFI http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/355-ready-for-inspection-maritime/ Beefy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 1 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Hi Beefy, apologies if you mentioned it before, but which manufacturer is the 4 barrel 'Pom Pom' from? Just wondering as I would need one if I get one of these Tribals. It certainly looks nicely detailed. Edited May 4, 2017 by Rob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelholic Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Rob, AFAIK, WEM make the only 4 barrel pom-pom. (PRO3508) in 1/350. I think there's parts for 3 mountings in each pack. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 HI Rob this is the little blighter I used it is from the NORTH STAR range I got this from Starling models at the Huddersfield show Mike from Starling models will be at the Northern model show in June along with Peter Hall of Atlantic models And that is around my birthday so hope to get myself a good prezzie from the missus Type 42 if Peter has it ready Beefy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73north Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just to point out you can buy the North Star Quad Pom-pom from ebay - which I did , well , well worth the investment ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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