robvulcan Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 18 hours ago, rob85 said: Ah! This is the duo! Some very nice work Rob, looks excellent with the decals on. Rob Many thanks Rob and yep this is the one. I am yet to decide the the identity of the next spit. I am fancying one with a blue or Eau de nil underside. Or a MK2. Another idea I have is using the old Airfix MK1 decals HAZ for a nostalgia trip to my childhood but on the new tooling here. We will see. The decals on the tail are a pain so I just mixed up some crimson, light ghost grey and brown then touched it up. The white too. Made a start on these too. cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 I’ve found this ancient Hasegawa 1/72 mk1 I never finished. I may still do something with it but is it worth it... naa so it is now experimental fodder. I intend to paint it the same as the spit here Halfords primer , old and new Humbrol enamels on top. Then one with klear and one bare. Then I’ll try spray with Humbrol and Tamiya sprays to see if I get a chemical reaction. Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 hours ago, robvulcan said: yet to decide the the identity of the next spit. I am fancying one with a blue or Eau de nil underside. Or a MK2. Another idea I have is using the old Airfix MK1 decals HAZ for a nostalgia trip to my childhood but on the new tooling here. We will see. Nuts to that, take a longer trip back to your Dad's childhood, BT-K it baby, thats the way... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, azureglo said: Nuts to that, take a longer trip back to your Dad's childhood, BT-K it baby, thats the way... I did consider that however I made that one a few years ago but that said the yellow upper roundels on BTK where cool !, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Nice touch ups Rob, can't see the joins! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, CedB said: Nice touch ups Rob, can't see the joins! Thanks mate. Only if you look for it. But I well expect the real things had the odd touch up here and here occasionally. Just need some enamel varnish now. My test proves that klear is not real barrier for a rattle can. cheers Rob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 Till I get some varnish which amazingly I don’t have any. Ive blutaked it together and sprayed up some concrete. The concrete is not for this but jsut me messing with colours and pencil. Cheers Rob 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Looking good Rob 6 hours ago, robvulcan said: My test proves that klear is not real barrier for a rattle can. Thank goodness you tested it - what a mess! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Well I seem to be experiencing chamical reactions on everything of late and now it’s this... firstly I used precision paints matt enamel and it’s an amazing varnish. However I stupidly used it on a very humid day. I got the dreaded bloom effect !. It was thinned with lighter fluid which usually works for me and maybe I was to heavy on the trigger or maybe I didn’t mix it enough. Either way I cured it by discovering you can over coat with Mr Color Clear matt 182 and Mr Leveling thinner. It’s compatible with enamels so I tried it out over the test spit and it worked no bloom yay A most excellent varnish but this idiot sprayed on a humid day ! It went on well in the above you can see the shiney Klear wing vs the rest . Then...... SWEARING ! .. lots of swearing. Score : Spitfire 1 - Rob 0 so I sprayed it over with lighter fluid and took it out to the sun shine as I know direct light can improve this problem with acrylics. then tested the Mr Color clear over enamels and this. So that’s a save ! , Score : Spitfire 1 - Rob 1. I will be using these varnishes again but the pheonix can be saved for less humid days. Maybe this one I’ll try thinning with their own thinner or Mr Leveling Thinner. Lighter fluid may be drying to quick for the pheonix. Rob Edited July 21, 2019 by robvulcan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, robvulcan said: Well I seem to be experiencing chamical reactions on everything of late and now it’s this... firstly I used precision paints matt enamel and it’s an amazing varnish. However I stupidly used it on a very humid day. I got the dreaded bloom effect !. It was thinned with lighter fluid which usually works for me and maybe I was to heavy on the trigger or maybe I didn’t mix it enough. Either way I cured it by discovering you can over coat with Mr Color Clear matt 182 and Mr Leveling thinner. It’s compatible with enamels so I tried it out over the test spit and it worked no bloom yay A most excellent varnish but this idiot sprayed on a humid day ! So that’s a save ! , Score : Spitfire 1 - Rob 1. I will be using these varnishes again but the pheonix can be saved for less humid days. Maybe this one I’ll try thinning with their own thinner or Mr Leveling Thinner. Lighter fluid may be drying to quick for the pheonix. Rob This is your friend, https://shop.autopaintsbrighton.co.uk/anti-bloom-cellulose-thinner-various-sizes-150-p.asp We get ours in 25 L drums but ask nicely at any local auto paints vendor and they'll usually do you a litre for £3-5 a pop. You might try it in your lighter if you feel some free facial cosmetic remodelling is in order too*. And spell Phoenix right, my screen is full of red squiggles when I reply, Oy! Finally, chemical reactions are good, yeah baby reeeal good... Later, A * Anyone reading don't do this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Nice save Rob, she looks pretty good to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Me too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Well saved Rob! Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Good save. I would have expected enamels to be tougher than acrylics, but clearly they aren't. Thank goodness you tested your first varnish on a paint mule! I think I should just throw away my bought-a-long-time-ago-but-never-used rattlecan matt varnish and stick to brushed acrylic matt. Looking forward to seeing it on its legs and unmasked. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Many thanks chaps. An update : 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Looks like dispersal on a foggy morning! Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, AdrianMF said: Looks like dispersal on a foggy morning! Regards, Adrian Cheers Adrian and that it does. I will reply properly re varnish in a bit. Here are a few more shots. cheers Rob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 22/07/2019 at 09:26, AdrianMF said: Good save. I would have expected enamels to be tougher than acrylics, but clearly they aren't. Thank goodness you tested your first varnish on a paint mule! I think I should just throw away my bought-a-long-time-ago-but-never-used rattlecan matt varnish and stick to brushed acrylic matt. Looking forward to seeing it on its legs and unmasked. Regards, Adrian Enamels are very strong once dry and particularly over Halfords primer. I am very impressed the new ones and old ones are very scratch resistant on the paint mule. But chemical reactions are a different matter. I love and have and will continue to use both Tamiya and Humbrol rattle can varnishes. But only over acrylics and lacquers. With Humbrol make sure you get the acrylic variety. I have not tried their enamel one. The Humbrol Matt does have a tendency to bloom in the spray acryl form unless done in direct sunlight when no clouds are present. (My experience with this one ) However Mr Color Lacquer varnishes and paints are the best I've used and so nice to use. However their smell might knock you over. But they are tough and perform flawlessly. W&N varnish however is always good Cheers Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 That looks great Rob - a lovely model 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 22:44, CedB said: That looks great Rob - a lovely model Many thanks Ced. on to the next one then. Which I’ve decided to try out new things with. many thanks to Sidders for being to kind to send me a near complete spit kit and spare canopy. Now I can make the second one. Yay on with the canopy and then the masks and primer. then a little rub down with Halfords finishing pad. I haven’t decided what spit to do yet but I’d like to make this one a little different and go for an Eau De Nil underside. I tried this new Humbrol 36 Pastel which in person looks great but on photo looks a little Wilde. Perhaps if I cut it back which some white. Though this looks right for the cockpit green used on some apparently. I like it whatever this looks way brighter than in person. This looks more like what it actually looks like minty ! Cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 It does look a bit bright doen’t It? I used to finish nearly all my Spitfires with Eau de Nil when I was a lad using Humbrol’s Duck Egg Green, I didn’t realise that there was a current Humbrol colour match. I have a tin of Colourcoats Eau de Nil which I havn’t opened yet. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Biggles87 said: It does look a bit bright doen’t It? I used to finish nearly all my Spitfires with Eau de Nil when I was a lad using Humbrol’s Duck Egg Green, I didn’t realise that there was a current Humbrol colour match. I have a tin of Colourcoats Eau de Nil which I havn’t opened yet. John It is a crazy colour on camera looking neon and in reality more pastel. That said ignoring accuracy for a second it looks damn cool in this colour !. Its like an 80s spitfire from an altered reality. I may still use this colour but tone it down a little. However I am now thinking of doing something crazy and idiotic with it and painting it in a neon camo scheme. haha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) I decided to stay with this green as I just like it for some reason. Possibly because it looks like others attempts at Eau De Nill, maybe because it’s different, maybe because it just looks damn cool. Probably because I’m building so many spits at the Mo I don’t really care if it’s accurate, it’s fun to build a more artistic licenced colourful art piece as apposed to the last more normal looking “accurate” one. That said it looks ok to me. but in photos looks neon in reality it’s more dull. (Awaits purists ... ) what can I say I like to experiment with colour. This one will have Humbrol 26 and likely Humbrol 149 for the uppers. all for variety’s sake or trying to represent the variety of said undersurface colours or just having to much fun.. I love green ! Edited July 27, 2019 by robvulcan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 More progress. As mentioned I’m trialling different colours on these spits. Sort of a test bed for the larger 1/32 ones I am making. So this one looks like it’s going to be the more cheerful looking bright and garish one. I have used HU26 instead of HU29. I used to when I was a kid and sometimes I prefer it to hu29 I also get numbers mixed up being dyslexic and they are quite similar looking tins. Masked up then I sprayed the hu26 then preshaded then sprayed more Humbrol 26 thinned with Mr Levelling thinner. Also all this talk of Oil Washes got me messing with oil paints and I hope to use them more. I have become fascinated with their properties and it got me re watching the amazing Bob Ross. Initially I bought a few Windsor and newton paints which are incredible but watching Bob I thought I’d try his brand as they are cheaper. So I got a selection of colours I could mix and find them just as good as W&N. I found myself watching Bob a lot and decided to have a go at my first oil painting on the back of the box they where supplied in. It’s a new hobby now ! ... fun I recommend everyone watches Bob Ross the entire 31 seasons is on YouTube and it is beautiful cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Very nice. I've built a number of Spitfires in 1/72, I normally only mask the very edge of the wings and not the entire underside, it should be safe to leave it unmasked. The oil looks great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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