jrlx Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Hi Giorgio, great to see this build progressing! Great detail and tips, as usual Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, rob85 said: But hang on does that big round thing not go on the front?? Madness!! Soon you'll be telling me your building a plane that doesn't even need a runway.... Quote i have been following more jet builds of late and blame you for it, I have even bought one and put my name forward for two proposed GB's where I would build a jet... They must be contagious Yes they are But my next build is going to have propeller(s) ... 1 hour ago, jrlx said: Hi Giorgio, great to see this build progressing! Great detail and tips, as usual Cheers Jaime Cheers Jaime, thanks! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, giemme said: Yes they are But my next build is going to have propeller(s) ... Cheers Jaime, thanks! Ciao Next build you say! And possible multiple prop's! What a tease Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Lovely work Giemme! The chart is a very nice touch - although the pilot will be in for quite a shock when the moving map display fails and (reaching for the chart) he discovers a big hole where his diversion airfield should be!!! :). Kirk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 8 hours ago, rob85 said: Next build you say! And possible multiple prop's! What a tease Rob Multiple props or multiple aircrafts? Who knows? 27 minutes ago, Kirk said: Lovely work Giemme! The chart is a very nice touch - although the pilot will be in for quite a shock when the moving map display fails and (reaching for the chart) he discovers a big hole where his diversion airfield should be!!! :). Kirk Thanks Kirk! Yes, I think it could be quite a thrill, but I'd be in panic already at "moving map display fails" ... Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Good morning Giemme. Good to see more progress on this project and what excellent progress it is too. The cockpit is now amazingly well detailed thanks to your efforts! Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 Cheers Stix, thanks Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 The repainted cockpit sills look great to my eyes They add a bit of detail and definition which makes a big visual difference in this scale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, Fritag said: The repainted cockpit sills look great to my eyes Then I'm fine Thanks Steve Good thing I bought that PE zoom set Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Monday, time for an update Most of my WE modelling time went into detailing the front and central wheel bays; there's quite an intricate plumbing in both of them, and I only tried to reproduce the main features. Before that, I masked off the cockpit area: One interesting bit in the front bay is the actuators for the bay doors: dry fit of the door to determine the correct position and actuators scratch built from suitable brass pipe and steel rod Another interesting feature is a sort of canvas cover in the front part of the same bay, which I tried to reproduce using some plastic card: Tamiya tape stuck on it and cut with a razor blade Painted and dry-brushed, to give te idea of some sort of texture (needs a touch up in one corner, I just saw that form this pic) I forgot to take pics of the other details I've added to the front bay, sorry Main wheel bay: some holes added, for the pipes/cables pass through: A mix of tin and copper wires : and here is the sub-assembly with the speed brake bay: I have a few bits cleaned and ready for primer, now: Comments welcome. Ciao Edited October 24, 2016 by giemme 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Nice update Giorgio, more very neat work. I do admire people like yourself that have the patience to detail wheelbays, something I don't have & why my models are always stuck to a base! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, keefr22 said: Nice update Giorgio, more very neat work. I do admire people like yourself that have the patience to detail wheelbays, something I don't have & why my models are always stuck to a base! Keith Thanks Keith . Nobody is probably ever going to look down there, mine must be some form of sanity issue ... Ciao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 22 hours ago, giemme said: Nobody is probably ever going to look down there, mine must be some form of sanity issue ... Reckon so. Still great work tho' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 56 minutes ago, Fritag said: Reckon so. Likes get along (not sure it's actually English, that - I was trying to translate an Italian expression) Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Here are the missing pics about the front wheel bay details: On a different subject: I've been scratching my head on how to reproduce the boarding step, which is always deployed when the canopy is in the open position. This one: Apart form the step itself, my concerns are about its housing in the lower fuselage: I'll have to carve out some plastic in that area, and I was trying to figure out to what extent - meaning if this would involve also the air intake piece, hence having to decide if I'm going to use the kit plastic part or the PAVLA resin offering. This is the area, just right to the tape strip: Looking at other pics of the boarding step, it looks like the housing is definitely going beyond that seam line, like I more or less marked here with a black marker Then again I don't like the kit parts not because of fitting, as that is almost identical to the resin bits, but rather because they need a lot of clean up and the sprue gates left huge dents in them. So I said what the heck, I'm going with resin! And I tested a home made chisel on a spare resin bit to see if it could go: Just a piece of brass rod that I shaped up using my Dremel with a sanding disc. Works pretty good, will see if the "handle" (that would be me )can keep up with that . Now, before gluing the resin intake to the front fuselage, I wanted to rescribe some of the lines that defines the additional vents (if anyone could help here with their name and explaining their function, please? ). So I used Tamiya Masking tape for curves, a razor saw and my Incido (sewing needle), the three of them all Steve's (Fritag) ideas I shamelessly tried to copy Left done, right undone So, using some CA gel, I glued the intakes to the fuselage; the reason for doing that at this stage is for ease of masking and painting of the intakes interior, which I'm going to do before joining this part to the main fuselage. The green circle in the above pic shows some tie-in job to be done. Same on the other side: Bottom joins are definitely better, both outer and inner: So now it's curing, before I do any fill in and sanding Comments welcome Ciao Edited October 26, 2016 by giemme 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72linerlover Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Giorgio, first of all let me say: another gem is coming. Great job. Than, I found some times ago, a discussion over the additional intakes you asked for. http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=36353&p= Easily got again. Who wrote, worked on the Harriers in the 90s, so quite reliable. Bye Eugenio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, 72linerlover said: Giorgio, first of all let me say: another gem is coming. Great job. Than, I found some times ago, a discussion over the additional intakes you asked for. http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=36353&p= Easily got again. Who wrote, worked on the Harriers in the 90s, so quite reliable. Bye Eugenio Thanks Eugenio, also for the link - very helpful Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Looks like you've got some tricky little filling jobs where the intakes meet the fuselage Giorgio Nothing a man of your calibre can't handle tho' I know you like PPP but will that be hard enough for the job? Edited October 26, 2016 by Fritag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fritag said: I know you like PPP but will that be hard enough for the job? Not for the top seams, Steve; I need something with more structure there. Still, I'm trying to determine, based on this excellent pic (source is Flickr album of the author, will remove if asked) if I have to wait till I put the LERX kit part on before starting any filling/sanding or sort the intake-to-fuselage join right away ... Food for thoughts for tonight modelling session (if I don't fall asleep on my sofa, that is ) Ciao Edited October 26, 2016 by giemme 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Hi Giemme. Your additional detailing in the wheel bays looks excellent! Very nicely done. Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Wow Giemme, just caught up with this build and you are at it again. Looks great with the added detail in the U/C bays, and the office not to bad either. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonl Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 All caught up now. Really enjoying this build... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 hours ago, PlaStix said: Hi Giemme. Your additional detailing in the wheel bays looks excellent! Very nicely done. Kind regards, Stix Cheers Stix, thank you! 45 minutes ago, Spookytooth said: Wow Giemme, just caught up with this build and you are at it again. Looks great with the added detail in the U/C bays, and the office not to bad either. Simon. Thanks Simon! 26 minutes ago, Leonl said: All caught up now. Really enjoying this build... Thanks to you too, Leon, glad to have you back.! Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 So I managed not to fall asleep immediately after dinner last night, and I took up filling and sanding the intake joins. I first went along all of them with CA gel, applied using a sharpened semi-rigid copper wire; once that dried I went over the bottom outer seams with my ETS Left done and right undone in the above pic. For the inner seams, after sanding them with regular sand paper stuck to cocktail sticks, I went over them with PPP, using a make up brush to smoothen it Next pic shows an in-progress of that; further smoothing was done using an old pointy brush moistened with water Upper inner seam For the top part, where I needed a more substantial filling, I used CA gel mixed with talc powder - actually, I sprinkled some talc on top of the CA layer. Again, ETS to sand them back to a proper shape and a nail polishing stick to refine them I'll have to squirt some primer on them to see if they actually tied in nicely with the fuselage. That's it for the day, comments welcome Ciao 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene K Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, giemme said: I first went along all of them with CA gel, applied using a sharpened semi-rigid copper wire; once that dried I went over the bottom outer seams with my ETS Does it hurt when you brush your teeth with those short bristles? And talk about CA application, have I mentioned this before? https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=36011185&postcount=14 Model is looking great. Excellent picture you posted of the real thing - looks like a real snug office. Gene K Edited October 27, 2016 by Gene K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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