Silver Fox Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I wanted one of these since seeing the restored machine at Bovington. There was one in the gift shop but it was £30!!! Fast forward a week or so and I went to the IPMS Wolds show at Driffield and there was one in a box under the table for a fiver. When I got it home I realised the Caunter scheme was going to be a problem. The thought of all that masking on a small kit meant she lived in her box for a while. Roll forward to the next Driffield show where I picked up the AK Caunter scheme colours at three times the cost of the kit. This has been a slow burner, as I expectd the masking has been a bit of a trial. I'm not sure of the colours compared to the restored machine but I'm sure the cognisenti will chime in and very welcome they will be. I used an article in the IPMS magazine of the Caunter scheme to get the pattern and it is not meant to be a specific vehicle just a representative machine. For what its worth I used a mixture of Vallejo washes and pigments to weather the paintwork. I posed it on my multi-purpose Desert base along tihe an Airfix Beford. I have chap to put in the turret to complete the model. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Starmer Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Very nicely done but one point. The truck would not have displayed a roundel, that was not in use until June 1942 and the ID markings on the Matilda II were only used from November 1941 till January 1942. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 Mike, thank you for the kind comments. The truck and tank are just sat on the base on a temporary basis, I don't intend to display them together. It was your article I followed, thank you for providing us IPMS mebers with such a great resource. One other thing, is the Matilda at Bovington painted wrongly as the Silver grey has a distict blue look to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Starmer Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Thank you for your kind comment, one likes to share discoveries providing they are correct. Yes, I know about the Bovvy Matilda. Modern sand colour, mid blue and dark grey. Painted about 40 years ago when practically nothing of worth was known about British army colours and blue was 'the colour used in the desert'. The tank is currently being overhauled, I dread to think what colour they will paint it this time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M. Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Ooh Andy, more visitations to the 'Dark Side' my son! I do note that it is in 'Bloke Scale'...1:48.... Cheers, Pete M. (currently drooling over his new SH 1:32 Tempest..now to decide who in No.486 (NZ) Squadron will be the owner???). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Hyphen Taylor-Cannon, he never gets enough credit I have an old Eduard one to do in his markings, Yes 1/48th is a good scale for armour and other targets. Shame there's so little in the way of extras. Cheers Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Nicely done! Mike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Thank you for your kind comment, one likes to share discoveries providing they are correct. Yes, I know about the Bovvy Matilda. Modern sand colour, mid blue and dark grey. Painted about 40 years ago when practically nothing of worth was known about British army colours and blue was 'the colour used in the desert'. The tank is currently being overhauled, I dread to think what colour they will paint it this time. dread is right. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/68676-paint-question-2-scc2/page-2 'The museum painted vehicles and artwork in books are not accurate, which is why they look so different.' Quite so. Some years ago I was at Bovington watching their painter outside applying markings to their brown Churchill. The colour was brown but not SCC 2. I asked how they went about deciding the colour of this exhibit. The reply? Well we were told they were sort of dark brown so we went to B&Q and found something that we thought about right. There was no need to guess, they have a copy of BS.987C in their archive. But colour is not important to the staff there and no one it appears is interested enough to bother. They do however have copies of my books. great build of the Matilda! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasmahal Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Very nice build and dio. I am starting a Tamiya Matilda Mk2 this week and will be looking for info of the caunter scheme. I have seen Mike Starmers research on the MAFVA site, i just need to convert into usable Acrylic colours although i'll look into the paint set as mentioned in the OP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Very nice build and dio. I am starting a Tamiya Matilda Mk2 this week and will be looking for info of the caunter scheme. I have seen Mike Starmers research on the MAFVA site, i just need to convert into usable Acrylic colours although i'll look into the paint set as mentioned in the OP. Mike's Tamiya mixes are here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234913729-british-ww2-tank-colors/#entry986298 HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasmahal Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Mike's Tamiya mixes are here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234913729-british-ww2-tank-colors/#entry986298 HTH Thanks Troy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Well me two penny worth is you have done a great job what ever the period or time setting. Both vehicles are stunning, good job. foxy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheather Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Your caunter looks much more authentic than the one at Bovington - I think that museum tank is the source of so many incorrect paint colour lists in kits. https://goo.gl/images/44Mxb5 On a similar note, I was looking to build a CS Centaur, the ones that the Royal Marines used at Normandy. I spent quite a bit of time trying to work out exactly what the colour SCC 2 looked like. About that time I visited Bovington museum and saw a number of 'brownish' British armour so I asked a curator which of these was SCC 2. He had a long chat with me concluding that unless a vehicle has been restored recently, you can't rely on the colours being authentic. He said that anything painted in the 70s, 80s and to a lesser degree 90s were often done by local cadet groups using whatever green, brown or buff paint they could get their hands on. He said that more recent restorations are done with more care but also the only way to know the true colour is to remove tool boxes and see if there was original unweathered paint underneath. What did suprise me though is that despite all the combined kit, expertise and archives at the museum the curator said that he did not have access to anything, even swatches, that could illustrate what the authentic colours were. Cheers, Nigel Edited June 28, 2016 by nheather 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Great looking Matilda! Very well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Chaps, thank you for your kind words, I am pleased to get her off the bench as she has been sitting there looking at me reproachfully since before Christmas( not saying which one). In the end I really enjoyed working on her. Now maybe an early Crusader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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