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Bruce Archer

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Hi!

As I dislike doing silver airplanes, are there RAF schemes for the new Airfix 1/48th scale Meteor F.8 which does not include Silver or Aluminum paint? And where to get the decals?

Bruce

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Yes, the TWU operated Meteor F.8 VZ467 in the Dark Sea Grey and Dark Green camo with Light Aircraft Grey undersides into the early 1980s

Various CAACUs had Meteor F(TT).8s in Light Aircraft Grey all over with and without dayglo orange areas and or target tug yellow and black undersides.

They often featured really nice squadron markings such as 79 and 85 sqn bars.

Edit,

just seen the 2nd question,

some F(TT).8 decals here http://www.hyperscale.com/2016/reviews/decals/x48160reviewbg_1.htm

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Almost all RAF Meteor 8s had some High Speed Silver on them somewhere: aircraft wearing the Dark Green and Dark Sea Grey camouflaged upper surfaces had High Speed Silver undersurfaces, e.g. one of the kit subjects, WL125 (IIRC) of 111Squadron, albeit with a black-outlined yellow fin.

The Meteor FR. Mk. 9s used by squadrons in RAF Germany had PRU Blue undersides, but you're going to have to wait for the kit (don't ask when though), although the camera widows are in the present kit. You could, if you have one, rob the nose section from a Classic Airframes FR. Mk. 9 kit.

Hannants' Xtradecal range has a number of sheets featuring camouflaged Meteors, although each sheet also features "silver" aircraft.

The kit features WH364 of 85 Squadron in overall High Speed Silver, but I have a sneaky suspicion that she was overall

Light Aircraft Grey, as was WH291 (of 79 Squadron IIRC). At least one of these was brightened up with some Dayglo stripes.

71Chally's just beaten me to the punch.....

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Hannants' Xtradecal range has a number of sheets featuring camouflaged Meteors, although each sheet also features "silver" aircraft.

The kit features WH364 of 85 Squadron in overall High Speed Silver, but I have a sneaky suspicion that she was overall

Light Aircraft Grey, as was WH291 (of 79 Squadron IIRC). At least one of these was brightened up with some Dayglo stripes.

71Chally's just beaten me to the punch.....

Nope WH364 was overall aluminium at the time the Airfix scheme represents. WH291 was with 85 then grey with 79 and with dayglodayglo again. WH301 had dayglo at 85

http://www.airpixbycaz.co.uk/cazsite/aviation/as1900/1968/abingdon/abb16.html

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Gloster_Meteor_F8%2C_UK_-_Air_Force_AN2233201.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25538536@N02/21319624354/

They all went through several variations over about 5 years

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Bruce- RAF aluminium ( High speed silver) is just aluminium/silver paint - Tamiya do a couple of spray cans that will do the job without even much thought.

All the operational aircraft were either High Speed Silver or camo over this on the undersides. If you really want RAF, and to avoid and "silver"you have to go for later 2nd line uses - by which time the silver was replaced with Light Aircraft Grey, but to my eye - that disguises the Meteors pre-eminent role as front line interceptor.

Painting a Meteor silver is damn site easier than doing an NMF F-86!!

Jonners

Dave - no idea how the below go there!!! weird

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I have to agree with Bruce in that I would rather avoid the silver schemes as they are done so regularly, it's a personal thing I guess.

The Meteors with the LAG undersides and the all over schemes, though second-line were great looking aircraft.

WH291 was a great example, serving in the grey scheme with at least three different markings.

I'm surprised that there aren't any decals for VZ467 yet (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Gloster_Meteor_F8%2C_UK_-_Air_Force_AN2059465.jpg), or have I missed them?

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[quote Nope WH364 was overall aluminium at the time the Airfix scheme represents. WH291 was with 85 then grey with 79 and with dayglodayglo again. WH301 had dayglo at 85.

They all went through several variations over about 5 years

Thanks Dave: I probably was thinking of '291 (or '301 perhaps) and hadn't checked my references. D'oh!

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Bruce- RAF aluminium ( High speed silver) is just aluminium/silver paint

It was 'Finish glossy aluminium 33B/865' but applied in a fairly complex process involving two coats of primer, one coat of stopper, two coats of filler, two coats of the glossy aluminium 33B/865 and finally burnishing with a cutting compound as a High Gloss Finishing Scheme to DTD 772. See the HSS thread:-

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235004420-high-speed-silver-nmf/

'High Speed Silver' was colloquial RAF shorthand for the aluminium finish applied in the scheme but naval aircraft also used the scheme so other colours were involved.

Nick

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We're the Meteor f.8s NMF or silver paint? If so I should think that vallejo metalizers colors would suffice?

Silver paint, the RAF didn't embrace NMF until the Lightning came along and then it was the only aircraft to be in NMF.

All other British aircraft used silver paint, colour name aluminium, where silver was used. This would have been carried through to export aircraft.

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At the time of the RAF review for The Queen's coronation, an Air Vice Marshal had "his" Meteor F8 painted in overall Dark Green. Details are in the 'Fighting Colours' book by Bruce Robertson - my copy is some 300 miles away at the moment, so I'm unable to confirm its serial....just a thought though......

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Silver paint, the RAF didn't embrace NMF until the Lightning came along and then it was the only aircraft to be in NMF.

All other British aircraft used silver paint, colour name aluminium, where silver was used. This would have been carried through to export aircraft.

Even then there were more areas of silver paint on the Lightning than many realise

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At the time of the RAF review for The Queen's coronation, an Air Vice Marshal had "his" Meteor F8 painted in overall Dark Green. Details are in the 'Fighting Colours' book by Bruce Robertson - my copy is some 300 miles away at the moment, so I'm unable to confirm its serial....just a thought though......

WK927

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234947171-allover-green-meteor-f8-sir-richard-atcherley/

http://www.aviationbanter.com/attachment.php?s=0438fa0d3f2fb5e16e2f03bddc3d98ad&attachmentid=72351&d=1419950384

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Air-Force/Gloster-Meteor-F8/2363863

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Once a scheme has appeared on an aircraft, even if only as a gate guardian, then it becomes an unimpeachable subject for a model. However historically wrong - previously. In this case, I believe the use of Light Aircraft Grey is certainly later than any active service Meteor F8.

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Thread resurrection! The Airfix 1/48 Meteor F.8 is one of the kits I’m considering starting soon, though as yet still undecided. 
 

However, on looking through the instructions, it says to paint the undersides of the 111 Sqn camo version in Humbrol 56. Would I be correct to think that is too dark and it should be closer to Humbrol 11? 

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8 minutes ago, Lord Riot said:

Thread resurrection! The Airfix 1/48 Meteor F.8 is one of the kits I’m considering starting soon, though as yet still undecided. 
 

However, on looking through the instructions, it says to paint the undersides of the 111 Sqn camo version in Humbrol 56. Would I be correct to think that is too dark and it should be closer to Humbrol 11? 

Too dark I would say.

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34 minutes ago, Lord Riot said:

Thread resurrection! The Airfix 1/48 Meteor F.8 is one of the kits I’m considering starting soon, though as yet still undecided. 
 

However, on looking through the instructions, it says to paint the undersides of the 111 Sqn camo version in Humbrol 56. Would I be correct to think that is too dark and it should be closer to Humbrol 11? 

 

I would go with 11 but with an awful lot of light grey added.

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