lunch box Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Hey, I am searching for a good primer and tips how to do this in the best looking way. I heared from some people, that using the primer wasn´t that efficient, is that true? I would be very glad, if you visit my other topic. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235003411-xtracolor-alternatives/ It is very urgently . For the glossy top coat, I have no idea, because of the many other opinions in forums. I searched a lot on the internet today and saw the Alcad II Primer and Microfiler. http://www.ebay.de/itm/GP-7-46-100ml-Alclad-2-Grundierung-schwarz-grau-weis-zur-Auswahl-/351115725361?var=&hash=item51c020ca31:m:mR_gNQS_JC7RmagWcugvbsw Is this a good choice? Is it airbrush ready? - L.B. I apologize for beeing so dumb. I started this topic in the wrong section. Thank you for moving my topic Edited June 19, 2016 by lunch box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunch box Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Hey, Only one question what is the best topcoat for airliner? -L.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Typically the "topcoat" is either called a varnish or gloss/satin/flat coat. Generally a gloss coat is used to ensure a good smooth surface for decals. Gloss is too shiny and makes a model look toy-like if used as a final varnish. I personally like satin, but then again I don't weather my models nor try to replicate well worn subjects. My personal favorite for gloss is Pledge Future / Kleer https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=pledge+future+floor+finish&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=31038513050&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12814388710880467177&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=t&ref=pd_sl_8qo9b1skph_b. It is thin enough to use straight with my airbrush and is also a useful thinner for Humbrol and Vallejo acrylics. For my satin finish I'm currently using Microscale Satin, which is a water based formula but expensive. I'm almost out so plan to try something new. I no longer use a flat coat, as that doesn't look right to me; a personal preference. Primers: my experience was that if using an enamel I did not need a primer, but if I paint with acrylics, I do. I rarely use enamels anymore, but if I did, I likely would spray a thin coat of a silver color to check the seams, but otherwise would put my base color directly in the plastic. Some folks swear by priming even for enamels. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunch box Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Typically the "topcoat" is either called a varnish or gloss/satin/flat coat. Generally a gloss coat is used to ensure a good smooth surface for decals. Gloss is too shiny and makes a model look toy-like if used as a final varnish. I personally like satin, but then again I don't weather my models nor try to replicate well worn subjects. My personal favorite for gloss is Pledge Future / Kleer https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=pledge+future+floor+finish&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=31038513050&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12814388710880467177&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=t&ref=pd_sl_8qo9b1skph_b. It is thin enough to use straight with my airbrush and is also a useful thinner for Humbrol and Vallejo acrylics. For my satin finish I'm currently using Microscale Satin, which is a water based formula but expensive. I'm almost out so plan to try something new. I no longer use a flat coat, as that doesn't look right to me; a personal preference. Primers: my experience was that if using an enamel I did not need a primer, but if I paint with acrylics, I do. I rarely use enamels anymore, but if I did, I likely would spray a thin coat of a silver color to check the seams, but otherwise would put my base color directly in the plastic. Some folks swear by priming even for enamels. Tim Thank you much thanks, which is the right pledge? If I use a the primer, showed in the topic, can I use it for both acrlics and enamel? Edited June 22, 2016 by lunch box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Thank you much thanks, which is the right pledge? If I use a the primer, showed in the topic, can I use it for both acrlics and enamel? This should be it, the label has changed (yet again) but says "same great product". https://www.amazon.com/SC-Johnson-Pledge-Multi-Surface-Finish/dp/B000ARPH4C/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1466683861&sr=8-1&keywords=pledge+future+shine+floor+finish I've never used alclad primers, I believe they are meant to be used with their metal paints. I do know a few in my club use it for all their priming needs, but don't know if that includes acrylics. Tim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 For me it's Tamiya fine grey primer. I mainly use enamels for the colours, can't get on with acrylic. Then humbrol clear Cotes, thsee are the ones in small glass bottles. Not the pledge attempts they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunch box Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 Hey, I am searching here in my local Walmart, but there are so many of them with other packagings. Is this the right one? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pledge-Floor-Care-27-fl-oz/15136693 Do you know a good trader for scale modelling? -L.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Hey, I am searching here in my local Walmart, but there are so many of them with other packagings. Is this the right one? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pledge-Floor-Care-27-fl-oz/15136693 Do you know a good trader for scale modelling? -L.B. That one should work. If in the US, there are a few online traders that are good, depending on your genre and scale, in no particular order: Scalehobbyist WestCoastHobbys SprueBrothers ScottsModelShop (ebay only) I've shopped at all of them as well as buying direct from manufacturers, generally shipping costs in the US are pretty good. If you mean a brick/morter shop you can walk into, it depends on your location. Not much near me in the Washington, DC area but then again Google is your friend and you'll just have to trek in and see. Tim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunch box Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 Hey, Thank you very much, for your quick reply. Here in my Homedepot, I found guy who told me that the pledge Klear is better than the you showed me. Is that right? This one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pledge-Klear-Multi-surface-750ml-floor/dp/B0033B9X1K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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