AntPhillips Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 As I mentioned in the other thread and some others have mentioned here, if you pursue it I'd probably buy one even though I've already got a Kinetic one, if you are able to engineer the kit, so that earlier IVM & IVP versions can be built then I'd probably buy 3 or more. Brief? It's been in service for nearly 40 years! I think Tiger331 is talking about AMK not the Etendard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Brief? It's been in service for nearly 40 years! Sorry, it maybe be bad phrasing on my part - I was referring to AMK as a kit manufacturer NOT the Super Etendard's in service record ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Ah, get you now. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I see it like this. There are kits currently available for the SuE. Those that are conversant with the type have pointed out numerous errors with those kits. AMK have a chance to not make the same errors and make a better kit. Furthermore, AMK's production and presentation impresses me and I hanker for the time to make both the 1/48th Magister and 1/72nd Delfin. If it bothers you, you could live with the errors of the other kits, others won't be able to live with that, some of those errors may be readily correctable, some might not and may require expensive after market upgrades... ...so there you are a couple of years down the line saying "When will somebody bring out a SuE that corrects the errors of kits ABC and XYZ"? You've got a chance now that you may not have later. It does of course put a lot of pressure on AMK not to blow it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin @ AMK Hobby Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Great debate and thanks again for taking the time to comment. Interesting points. It is going to be tough for them to decide I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinBK Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 What about a poll for L-39 and Tomcat too ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin @ AMK Hobby Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 L-39C is on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drareg Naitsirhc Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I definitely would buy a couple of AMK Super Etendard kits! I am still hoping, that AMK will bless us with an excellent Super Etendard in 1:48, which would offer detail parts considering the different modernisation stages starting with the legacy SUE of the 70s and 80s to the last stage of updated SEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Notwithstanding the aforementioned errors in the Kinetic SuE, is the market big enough for two kits? Would AMK do better by cancelling their SuE and looking instead to produce a model of an as yet unkitted subject? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldwin8 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I think this is just typical business model, companies have to react to the market. Nothing really lost as research will be saved until the time it is needed. Could you imagine how many projects more established manufacturers have sitting on the selves? I'm not sure I would buy every product AMK produces but I know I am more than likely to buy something from them sight unseen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Laidlaw Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Notwithstanding the aforementioned errors in the Kinetic SuE, is the market big enough for two kits? Would AMK do better by cancelling their SuE and looking instead to produce a model of an as yet unkitted subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Well Martin if I were you, taking competition from Kittyhawk, Kinetic and GWH into account, in the next few years I would focus on more mainstream types or better said subjects with better worldwide coverage. S.Etendard - yes but wait a few years and for starters try to corner other players. My list would be 1. Mirage 2000C, 2000-5 etc...Kinetic has numerous deficiancies 2. Mirage F.1C etc... same as above 3. Buccaneer 4. F-4C-F .... 5. F-5A/B/C and E/F Congrats on MiG-31....and hope 25 will be as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) And soon the same type of pool for the AMK MiG-25 project, I mean after the soon to release ICM kit? V.P. Edited June 13, 2016 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 And soon the same type of pool for the AMK MiG-25 project, I mean after the soon to release ICM kit? V.P. No, ICM will not be in the same league as your kit If you adhere to current standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisov Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 And of course applying the old adge Kinetic (or insert company of your choice) kits don't make money for AMK. Whoose Magister and Kfir still selling. Just for interest does anyone have a link or knowledge of market share for model companies At least one for me. Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Anyway I'll keep waiting for the AMK! regards Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 You could release a 1/72 Super Etendard, so as not to waste any research etc, that has been done already. The Academy and Heller kits have been around a while so a good new kit would be welcome. thanks Mike 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinBK Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Absolutely right Mikemx ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_H_ Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I voted YES. I won't buy the KH one and out of Kinetic and AMK I'd always choose the AMK version. That maybe personnel preference but thats how I see it regards Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Perren Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 No vote for mine. While I'm certain that AMK would nail it, I have a perfectly acceptable airfix build in my cabinet. And the number of SuE's required by me is already achieved. My hobby dollar has priorities elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadeocu Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 + 1 vote for Buccaneer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 * Please keep any comments germane to the subject and let's not go off on any wishlist of new kits like happened in the other thread. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr_pierre74 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hello, My first post on Britmodeller will be to follow the topic, As far as I'm concerned, and as long as the quality of the AMK's SuE would be the same as the previous kit I have purchased so far (Kfir and L-29)... I would buy at least two models. And I'm sure, not to buy kinetic one, as I don't place those brand's work on the same level... My own mind... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard123 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 No thanks, I'd rather see something different please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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