Homebee Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) New Eduard "Fishbed-J" boxing - ref. 1199 Release in May 2016 Source: https://www.facebook.com/EduardCompany/?fref=nf Quote QuoteQuote This artwork by Martin Lebl, introduces the May 2016 special 1/48 scale Limited Edition MF featuring MiG-21M, MF and MFN in Czechoslovak, Czech and Slovak armed air forces, from the years 1972 - 2005. These two heavily weathered MiG-21MFs came from a batch of 39 colorful markings, that are featured in this kit, and further illustrated by the enclosed 128 page book by Martin Janousek, published by Eduard (available EXCLUSIVELY with this kit). Check us out around the end of April for detailed information about this release. MiG engines are now firing up! MAY 2016 - Eduard Limited edition kit MF #1199 / 39 MARKING OPTIONS MiG-21M, MF and MFN in Czechoslovak, Czech and Slovak armed air forces. Stay with us for more detailed information about the particular markings and schemes. V.P. Edited July 13, 2021 by Homebee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya-gabor Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 It is already out! Or to be precise it was out last weekend for the Moson show. Here is a bit of news on what is inside: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235001203-eduard-mig-21-mf-limited-edition/ Best regards Gabor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Air intake, pitots for MiG-21MF/MFN by Mini World - ref. MINI4849 Source: http://hobbyterra.com/product/air-intake-pitots-for-mig-21mf-mfn-for-eduard-kit-mini-world-4849.html V.P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesthegringo Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I thought the nosecones on MiG 21s were made from composite material, so that they were radar transparent. I have never seen a metal one, am I getting this wrong? Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya-gabor Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 It is interesting when the original title of the thread is modified and by doing so the content becomes something very different. Originally it was all about (and JUST about) the Eduard Limited Edition MiG-21MF kit. For example I commented the Eduard kit ONLY. Now some unrelated aftermarkets are introduced into the title and the thread as such has little to do with the Eduard kit! I don’t really get what is the question of Lesthegringo about the “metal” nose cone. On the real aircraft they are made from layers of glass fibre sandwiching the honeycomb inner structure. Please ignore what Hans-Heiri Stapfers has written in his Squadron Walk Around No.39 (5539) book : “The MiG-21MF’s dielectric nose cone was made of laminated wood and covered with a plastic foil. Wood is a dielectric material that easily allows radar waves to pass through it. “ It’s a joke!!!!!!!! But it shows clearly how much he knows about the Fishbed. Best regards Gabor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 9 hours ago, lesthegringo said: I thought the nosecones on MiG 21s were made from composite material, so that they were radar transparent. I have never seen a metal one, am I getting this wrong? Cheers Les I think you are missing the point mate, yes it's metal (machined aluminium?) but you wont see that cause you are going to paint it, so I assume its metal because: 1: being machined its a perfect taper. 2: doubles up as a nose weight to stop your build sitting on its tail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 9 hours ago, ya-gabor said: “The MiG-21MF’s dielectric nose cone was made of laminated wood and covered with a plastic foil. Wood is a dielectric material that easily allows radar waves to pass through it. “ I'm soooo tempted to start spreading this around the internet now, because 'I read a post by Gabor that said...' Glass fiber is a composite as well, and is probably what Les meant. It's certainly what I assumed he meant when I read his post. I agree that it's more about shape than material though (it's aluminium, so it won't add weight), but I guess it does add an interesting quandary to your finished model: the bits that should be 'plastic' will be metal, and the bits that should be metal will be plastic. Maybe make the canopy out of rubber, and the tires out of glass... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 32 minutes ago, ICMF said: I agree that it's more about shape than material though (it's aluminium, so it won't add weight), but I guess... Really? I think it still will weigh more than the stock empty plastic nose cone so will save you filling it with whatever, and I imagine they've worked out its enough to stop tail sitting, as seems to protrude deeper back into fuselage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Anyway I think this is going off topic, and we are all getting confused with 'form over function' and vice versa. Like saying all our plastic models are wrong and should be made of mini metal sheets & struts because the real things are... Even though you'd never know once painted (unless you tried to pick it up ha ha) I dont think that the above manufacturer offered the nose cone in metal because they were trying to copy what the real one was made from but got it wrong, they offered it that way because it improves on the plastic part for the two reasons I mentioned above. Another example is replacing undercarriage legs with sometimes crude metal parts that dont offer any more detail. Its not because the real ones are made of metal (form) and people want to copy that fact as no one will know under the paint. Its because of the strength they add to the finished model (function), especially in the larger scales. Brainwave, I'm going to set up an aftermarket company offering tiny 0.5mm real glass discs so people can put them in their instrument panels like the real ones have, because using drops of gloss varnish isn't true to form. 😂 Edited December 5, 2016 by Tony Oliver Spacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya-gabor Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Before you start spreading it around please add the first part of the sentence too: Please ignore what Hans-Heiri Stapfers has written in his Squadron Walk Around No.39 (5539) book : “The MiG-21MF’s dielectric nose cone was made of laminated wood and covered with a plastic foil. Wood is a dielectric material that easily allows radar waves to pass through it. “ Now you can "internet it" I like the idea of interchanging the building materials as sugested by ICMF!!! Best regards Gabor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesthegringo Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 One thing is for certain - it certainly teaches me not to ask questions! Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 6 hours ago, Tony Oliver said: Really? I think it still will weigh more than the stock empty plastic nose cone so will save you filling it with whatever, and I imagine they've worked out its enough to stop tail sitting, as seems to protrude deeper back into fuselage... Okay, not *literally*, but the amount of weight will be negligible. It's not about adding nose weight; Mini World specialise in cast brass and turned aluminium details. It's what they do. So it's natural that their MiG-21 radome would be turned aluminium, just like the Su-7/11/17 radomes they released last year. Machined aluminium allows for a sharper point and finer, more 'scale' details, much like Master's turned brass pitots (which also are not about adding weight). 5 hours ago, ya-gabor said: Before you start spreading it around please add the first part of the sentence too Where's the fun in that?!? 2 hours ago, lesthegringo said: One thing is for certain - it certainly teaches me not to ask questions! No, it's a fair question. The larger benefits of the detail set would be the cast brass PVD/pitots and the metal intake lip (which can be polished, depending on your paint scheme); the radome itself will have a sharper point than the plastic, so more 'scale', but it shouldn't be massively different otherwise. (I'm not aware of any major complaints about their radome shape) Which actually raises another question... Gabor, since they've also done a bis set, what would it do for the Eduard kit? Presumably it's sized for Eduard's inaccurate bis nose, so it wouldn't work on the Cold War Studios correction, and would just match Eduard's (wrong) parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ka-Efka Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 The weight difference will be considerably enough to add a welcome extra for stability. What bothers me a bit is that the surface of the aluminum part seems slightly on the rough side. But most likely nothing some primer will not be able to take care of. I'm tempted to add one to my kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya-gabor Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 1. I still think that this topic, should be renamed by Homebee to say it is about a so and so aftermarket product. The present title stipulates that it is a new boxing of the Eduard kit which includes this aftermarket product. This is NOT true! 2. Suppose that the aftermarket maker was planning to produce a product which is built around the Eduard kit so yes, it is not a real correction just a tuning of the original kit replacing the plastic parts with metal. 3. Since I don’t have this aftermarket product (and by the look of it don’t think that I would like to have it either) I could not comment about it fitting or not to the Cold War Studios corrected bis nose. This manufacture is missing the point about the correct MiG-21 bis nose! They only replaced plastic with metal. Best regards Gabor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 From Ciro Models - ref. 453 - MiG-21MF CRYSTAL CLEAR CANOPY + INNER FRAME Quote Crystal clear canopy (manufactured by Rob Taurus) + inner frame. Designed for the Eduard kit. Source: http://shop.ciromodels.com/1-48/98-c-453-mig-21mf-acetatovy-pekryt-s-ramem.html V.P. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 Next boxing - ref. 84177 - Mikoyan Gurevitch MiG-21MF "Fishbed-J" - Weekend edition Source: https://www.eduard.com/out/media/InfoEduard/archive/2021/info-eduard-2021-09en-jepa.pdf V.P. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 That is great decals for ""weekend" ! The German decision markings are new/ previously unreleased, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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