dragonlanceHR Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 As Laurent writes, the shape is a tube that is kinked in one place, not curved. Perhaps this drawing (from scalemodels.ru discussion) from poster Skylark makes it clearer. http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/img_1346516_1487166408_1442791772_Su1709-20-2015-2---rrrrjos.jpg.html As for Dio's post, yes, in 2017 with a kit costing 50+ Euros I do rightly expect much from the manufacturers. After all, they expect much of my money. Vedran 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vesthepes Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) Not sure about the kit... Here's a few photos I took last month. Standing by the plane, the kink is very obvious... Edited March 1, 2017 by vesthepes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABeck Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, ABeck said: Nope: FlugzeugForum.de requires to log in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, vesthepes said: Not sure about the kit... Here's a few photos I took last month. Standing by the plane, the kink is very obvious... The issue is the under fuselage concavity in the middle-rear fuselage, not the front-middle fuselage kink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vesthepes Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I see now... you have a point here... How do the belly pylons sit on the fuselage on this kit? Are they leaned downwards at the front because of the concave belly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, vesthepes said: How do the belly pylons sit on the fuselage on this kit? Are they leaned downwards at the front because of the concave belly? I hope someone else will answer as I've "fixed" both fuselage halves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkmouth Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Still waiting on my kit... I don't mind some surgery... Yet, while I wait, the Modelsvit kits are becoming more tempting (even if in 72nd scale). Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just now, sharkmouth said: Yet, while I wait, the Modelsvit kits are becoming more tempting (even if in 72nd scale). When Modelsvit will release the M4 people will build squadrons of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Easy peasy intake splitters that will help holding the centerbody also. Basic job as the splitters won't be very visible and that I doubt the centerbody shape is accurate in first place. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcop Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Laurent said: Easy peasy intake splitters that will help holding the centerbody also. Basic job as the splitters won't be very visible and that I doubt the centerbody shape is accurate in first place. Hi Laurent .... "Gâche-métier." Do not take the bread out of the mouth of Zacto , Barracuda, Quickboost, Aires, Vector, Neomega, Wolfpack, .... will you ? AFAIK, for the time being I'll stay with my old KP + Cutting edge's collection of accessories I had bought at the time ! All those bucks I spent at the time for the low cost KP should now be used ! Why add 50+€ to my pain ? I just hope that someone else will produce the " definitive" (Not in the Eduard sens of the term) Su-17/22 family. ( Alloooo, Tonton ?, pourquoi tu tousses ?) TAMIYA ?, ZACTO ? AMK ? We can always dream. Madcop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 35 minutes ago, madcop said: "Gâche-métier." Do not take the bread out of the mouth of Zacto , Barracuda, Quickboost, Aires, Vector, Neomega, Wolfpack, .... will you ? Hardly. I let masters creation and resin casting to others. I just hope that someone else will produce the " definitive" (Not in the Eduard sens of the term) Su-17/22 family. ( Alloooo, Tonton ?, pourquoi tu tousses ?) TAMIYA ?, ZACTO ? AMK ? We can always dream. Well the scan made in Cottbus was done for a reason but there may be a long period of time between design and tooling phases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Laurent said: Easy peasy intake splitters that will help holding the centerbody also. Basic job as the splitters won't be very visible and that I doubt the centerbody shape is accurate in first place. what happened? did KH not provide these parts? or were they wrongly shaped? :puzzled: Edited March 4, 2017 by Greg B Repeated images removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, exdraken said: what happened? did KH not provide these parts? or were they wrongly shaped? Centerbody isn't held by intake splitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Laurent said: Centerbody isn't held by intake splitter. so they just do not provide them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABeck Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 http://s64.photobucket.com/user/ABeck_2006/media/DSC_1218.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, exdraken said: so they just do not provide them? They don't but it's an easy fix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 9 hours ago, madcop said: Do not take the bread out of the mouth of Zacto , Barracuda, Quickboost, Aires, Vector, Neomega, Wolfpack, .... will you ? I was just thinking the same thing. That's a *stupidly* simple part to design. Though if I'm designing a replacement, I'd want to detail the range finder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Monsieur Laurent! Awesome job addin' 'em intake splitters to the nose cone! Ya gonna delete those fixation pins which originally came on each side of 'em cone? On 04/03/2017 at 8:12 AM, madcop said: AFAIK, for the time being I'll stay with my old KP + Cutting edge's collection of accessories I had bought at the time ! All those bucks I spent at the time for the low cost KP should now be used ! Why add 50+€ to my pain ? This'd be the perfect time to be publishin' both yer KP kit along with 'em all Cutting Edge bits for it, methinks. The Kitty Hawk kit is a helluva lot better kit than it's the KP kit plus all of 'em aftermarkets ya might graft onto it. Just the right thickness of 'em wings on the Kitty Hawk kit - compared to the KP one - is worth every quid ya pay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I thought you had abandoned the pirate schtick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I know me should, but give it a lil' time; me's real unable to. It seems to be quite an embedded style on both my written' 'n' spoken English. Blame it on all those sweet years me's spent in beautiful Aussieland. Me's so sorry. Yeh, me real is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 In stock now at Hannants....... https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KH80144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobby_23 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Really need to hold off on this until the Hobbyboss kit drops. I know I said I would get this no matter what Kitty Hawk produced, but the HB coming so soon afterwards makes it little more complicated! I'm a little put off by the multi-part fuselage. The rest of the kit I can deal with and, for the most part, aside for the fuselage is all seems to go together rather well. Alas...let's see what HB pull out of the bag. Edited March 16, 2017 by Sobby_23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Found on the KH Su-17M3/M4 Scalemodels.ru topic. Drawing overlays with KH and HB: http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/img_1357437_1489508102_10002---kopija.jpg.html Edited March 16, 2017 by Laurent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Yeh, me's been lurkin' on 'em Ruskie thread - Google translator nay help too much - but me was appalled upon watchin' this comparison here; is "they're" 'em Hobby Boss kit fuselage the one which is on top...? Ruskie blokes affirm that HB have botched 'em forward fuselage 'n' canopy; it just look like 'em OEZ one? Me thought to have noticed that the new HB kit looked sorta like 'em OEZ in that aspect. Yeh, me did. Well, thank Gawd me's purchased 'em KH kit instead! Yeh, me is. Cheers 'em drUnc2 Edited March 16, 2017 by Uncle Uncool Piccy nay showin' on 'em thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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