perdu Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Well I hope you remember Dobbin, the originally planned motive power unit for the Hansom You will recall he had problems with his stance and was noticeably overweight for a working fellow so has been put out to pasture and will one day grace the shafts of my Collier's Waggon when he's a tad fitter Anyway, after much ado may I introduce you to Neddy his protegé His present colouring is subject to change and your critique on the subject is welcome and intensely willingly anticipated I have discovered that painting horses in water colour doesn't quite prepare one for sh.... horrid acrylics that pool and bluster onto the model Ladies and gennulmens Neddy Flash doesnt help make him look any better but when I see him without the flash I'm less despondent I just cannot find any decent 'net places' that will help me with a: Horses and b: Acrylics so this is all hit'n'miss trial and mahoosive error Oh well at least he's here ready to be worked on Any advice and pointers very willingly welcomed Bill 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Hello Neddy, have a carrot...!! He looks good to me Bill, his colour, in the last shot in particular, is very similar to my daughter's 1:1 scale chestnut mare! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 I'm rather unsure whether instant digital photography is a bane or a boon to we model-makers Just noticed that Neddy's left fore is in need of a Swann-Morton Scalpel exercise regime His left leg betrays the inevitable Frankensteinish nature of any conversions based around the Airfix Collectors Series horses None of the ones I have seen have identically sized limbs S'pose that's right really Oh well, more painting to come now I'll get some pics soon, when I settle on the final coat colour I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 coloring looks pretty darned fine to me - way better than I could ever hope to achieve! even though you pointed out that the fourth something or other on the port side needed surgery, I still couldn't spot the defect. The only thing I would consider changing (and this is just *my* opinion!) is maybe make the steering gear a bit darker to provide more a touch contrast between that and Neddy's face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Lol Hendie mate the 'tack' hasn't been started yet because I need to get the 'horse' bits the right colour first At the mo' I have repainted the "newer thinner" left foreleg with the base coat of gingery brown (Vallejo Model color 70.984 Marron Mate/ Flat Brown) and later tonight maybe the top dry brush coat of Humbrol 186 will be stippled over it and some of the other parts so I can see what is what With luck Neddy will appear, as if by magic Has to be magic, there bain't no skill involved, figures and me is poor bedfellers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzulscha Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Forgive my criticism and it may be the lighting or summat but it looks as though the left front is a bit more, well underneath than the right front? Right side shot looks nice as does the front 3/4 view but the left side shot looks like the port undercart needs to move outboard just a titch. Again, could just be the viewing angle. Of course what I know about a horses undercarriage could be put in a very small thimble. Please feel free to call me an idiot. The cab itself looks top hole. Bravo. Cheers. Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) I'm no expert Tzulscha, you maybe right but since I trimmed him it looks fine to me Any draught horse needs kit so he can tow his cargo His collar is under construct as we sits here adding another layer of thick polycard forgot to mention this didnt sit right and I'm still working on the collar question As I was testing the collar's fit it kept scraping off Neddy's paint which gave me the chance to get him finished I have added a couple of layers of Humbrol Matt Acrylic Varnish to toughen the paint and make it settle down nicely on his mane and tail too So here he is ready for his tack, this is the job in progress at the moment his bridle has been picked out with a darker brown and looks fair to me now So it gives me much pleasure to show how it is all coming together, even if there is a colossal amount of unknown territory here for me in the future days and evenings Neddy The cab and Neddy And may I introduce to you, the presently ghostly Mr Jolyon Welch, cabdriver We shall be meeting Mr Welch in more (I hope) detail presently Finally I got the flash in sorry about the other shots The driver is my next and I fear my greatest hurdle, you may be bothered for advice with him from me I hope I can rely on your skills herewith Night peeps Edited June 4, 2016 by perdu 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Neddy's looking good Bill - as is the rest! Afraid I have no skills in figure painitng so won't be able to offer much advice on decorating Mr. Welch! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) the powerplant looks great Bill. Incredibly realistic coloring there. - you can just see the muscle in that engine raring to go. I look forward to seeing the powerplant finally fitted in place and all the connections made to the airframe (though this particular airframe makes some of those Russian helicopters look almost aerodynamic by comparison!) In that last shot it looks as if the pilot is about to take a puff on an aged and worn, but comfy pipe so can only assume you're going for some pre-1990's scheme. oh, one more thing about the powerplant.... it looks like you've forgotten the exhaust tailpipe! Edited June 4, 2016 by hendie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Marvelous work Bill, just found your build thread. As with Hendie, it's not the subject matter but your build process, looking stunning. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 Thank you Colin, guys for that I'll take it as encouragement whilst Mr Welch and I get down and entangled I don't like modern paint types at all, we had it far better back in the day Even if we were poisoning ourselves with smelly fumes Humbrol and Gloy, proper paint in them thar days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzulscha Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I won't presume to offer advice on the cab itself but I'm not completely awful with figures and I'd be more than happy to try and help with Mr Welch if I could offer my humble services... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 An offer I will happily take up Tzulscha See ya later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Cracking work Bill. And as a fellow user of old school Humbrol enamels, I can safely say a lifetime of sniffing smelly neurotoxins in confined unventilated spaces hasn't done me any harm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 What a splendid piece of work! A really lush and engaging piece of scratch building. Right up my street, so to speak. Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Hi, your horse looks fine to me, as does the whole ensemble. If you still aren't happy with the horse's colouring, my teenaged daughter "repaints" some of her "Breyer" model horse using pastels - all her modelling techniques come off YouTube, though there are books available. She showed me some of the videos, the techniques are fairly straightforward, at least initially. She's very artistic, her reworking of her models look very lifelike. Certainly the pastel technique gives a very natural feel to colour variations. Reworking model horses seems to be a whole other modeling genre, mainly in the states and apparently more popular model hobby on the female side for once. From what my daughter told me there are whole championships for miniature horses. Cheers Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince1159 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I'd like to see some photo's of her work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 I'd like to see some photo's of her work...Ditto,Work did slow down on Jolyon and Neddy whilst I finished my Auster but is now underway again Just been cobbling the street they will be stood on and working on Ned's tack I'll try to get some pics into photodollop tonight Thanks for looking in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Nice to see you back on this one, looking forward to seeing the pics! Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 OK then Thanks Roger I will start with Neddy ready (poem alert poem al...) for some harness making He looks duller in photos than real life so I may decide to give him a slight sheen I'll look into it nearside? view II am told that everyone wore a scarf in those days of Dickensian winters, Ned has a scarf to protect his neck from paint and 'stuff' whilst I fit him a horse collar, painlessly A wrap of cling film will keep the inevitable spatters off when I get it trimmed to size The collar was a problem, even cutting the plastic one didnt give decent access to the horse's neck so I ended up with making a collar from Plasticene which was quite easy to shape and fit Shaped down and given an initial dollop of acrylic (ModelAir Sombra Tostada 71.040 Burnt Umber) that got a thin wash of Humbrol Clear to neutralise the softness of the plasticene This then got a coat of Model air 70.822 German Brown and was allowed to dry nicely Next I began making the saddle part of the harness, this bit's not for riding on but will hold the reins loop and the shafts straps Here is the piece of Brummagem cobblestones that he will bestride when at work and Ned lying down whilst the strapping is begun The girth straps need a pair of buckles adding so I cast around looking for useful bits-n-bobs here I have cut holes in a section of 1/8" U section Evergreen ready for the trimming to begin The underside of the buckles are trimmed to suit The new buckles emerge from the chaos... slowly A pair of straps were fabricated and bent with fine pointy pliers This isnt a good picture of the strapped buckles, sorry Here is the result, I quite like them Now the plasticene has dried out and hardened a bit I can get down to reinstating the lost shape on the collar before I add the (plastic) ironworks for pulling a horse with Next phase, making the upper saddle brace piece One side on now Here the second side of the harness is cemented down and taped to hold it down whilst the glue sets And for tonight a shot of Jolyon lost for words again I am definitely not happy with this character, much work needed, maybe even a new head (or both, I dont like him much at all for what it's worth) Err that's all folks 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Excellent stuff Bill, really good to see you back at this one! Superb work on both the collar & those buckles, which look tremendous (& tremendously fiddly to make!) The only slight reservation I have is about the plasticene. I used to use it for nose weight in my aircraft models back in the dark ages & on a number of occasions, after a while, oil leached out of the stuff & split open the nose seams, & left a horrible gooey mess. Maybe though, like your favourite paints, the formulation has changed over time? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 I've been worrying about that it's true but I'm hoping all the layers of acrylics and copious splodging with Clear will hold back its effects for a few years whilst I get thinking about ways of replicating it from something else that won't atack the paint already on Neddy's neck It should hold 'til November at least so it can go on the Branch Display at Telford, Best Of British (like the Auster) The stuff isnt like real Harbutts Plasticene, more of a 'plasticene light' from (I think) Lidl or Aldi and has less stink of chemicals than the stuff we grew up loving I used to love the days when 'miss' sent us to the cupboard to get the strawboards and the big boxes of Harbutts, usually days it was too wet for the playground YiPPPPEEEE I loved Plasticene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I used to love the days when 'miss' sent us to the cupboard to get the strawboards and the big boxes of Harbutts, usually days it was too wet for the playground YiPPPPEEEE I loved Plasticene Me too!! Would Miliput or similar work Bill? But as you say, it shouldn't give trouble before November! K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzulscha Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The horsie and his harness look terrific I must say. Your driver looks like he has been savaged by his own mustaches however. Not unsalvageable though, just cut in some skin tones with a fine brush. A bit of a trim as you might say. I do a lot of face fur with a pencil. A clear coat turns the graphite from silvery to black. It does mean I have a lot of brunette figures... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 Yes it probably would, I'm just having one of my sessions of not quite liking it lately too many sessions of it not quite setting and the like but re-inspired I might whip off the plasticene and whip up a dollop of Milli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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