armored76 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Hey, I'm planning on building a Tornado GR.4 from the latest Revell 1/48 kit depicting ZD714. The empty fuselage pylons kind of bother me so I planned to place some Eduard Storm Shadows down there and also replace the AIM-9s from the box with their Eduard resin counterparts. The question is: Would these weapons be carried at all by this machine? From the images I've been able to find the Storm Shadows should be OK but I'm not sure about the AIM-9s. If these would be carried are Eduard's AIM-9M/L the correct version? Also, is there any resin replacement for the GR.4 cockpit? I've been able to find NeOmega's IDS cockpit but this is not the correct one here.... right? Many thanks in advance! Cristian Edited April 1, 2016 by armored76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Hasn't AIM-9 been completely replaced by ASRAAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV107 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Depends on the date - the instructions say that the decals represent the aircraft in 2008, so AIM-9s would still be in use by the GR4 at that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armored76 Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Thank you, guys. But will this particular bird or squadron use the AIM-9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Aim-9L/M from Eduard are fine and maybe the best ones... the ones Revell supplies with the kit are a joke, these are kind of Aim-9B from the 1960ies/ 70ies... maybe Germany still used them in the 80ies during the Tornado development..... I don't think there was a reason in 2008 to carry live ones though... but surely possible! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 On peacetime training missions the aircraft would normally carry acquisition rounds, basically the missile bodies without their fins rather than Sidewinder missiles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) On peacetime training missions the aircraft would normally carry acquisition rounds, basically the missile bodies without their fins rather than Sidewinder missiles. Acquisition rounds were not missile bodies without their fins. they were the operational missile guidance head fitted to what can be basically described as a drainpipe fitted with missile hangers. They were painted light aircraft grey with two 50mm dia roundel pink bands stencilled ACQN in 25mm high black letters on each band. I have also seen missiles painted Camouflage grey instead of LAG, with the same markings. The picture in your original post (#1) has one fitted on the port missile rail by the way, you can see the seeker and greeny grey seeker head without canard fins on the launcher! Selwyn Edited April 2, 2016 by Selwyn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armored76 Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Thank you! So the grey parts that can be seen on the image above, behind the fuel tanks are the acquisition rounds? What about the green parts right next to them? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Thank you! So the grey parts that can be seen on the image above, behind the fuel tanks are the acquisition rounds? What about the green parts right next to them? Thanks! The grey part with the black tip is the missile hanger, the green part is the acquisition round's seeker head - this thread contains some clearer pictures: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/50475-sidewinder-acquisition-rounds/ Acquisition rounds were not missile bodies without their fins. they were the operational missile guidance head fitted to what can be basically described as a drainpipe fitted with missile hangers. Selwyn Selwyn - thank you: I think that's a better description of the round's body ! Edited April 2, 2016 by Richard E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armored76 Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Hmmm... these don't seem to be included with the kit or at least I'm not able to identify them on the sprues shown here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234993811-tornado-gr4-148/ Are there any aftermarket parts for these? Also, to get back to the cockpit, is there a suitable resin replacement for the Gr.4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Thank you! So the grey parts that can be seen on the image above, behind the fuel tanks are the acquisition rounds? What about the green parts right next to them? Thanks! green bit with "White blob" (actually the missile seeker glass) is the missile, the grey bit is the LAU7A missile launcher with black anti erosion paint on the tip. http://www.tpub.com/aviord321/44.htm scroll down to see the images to see the launcher . http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/50475-sidewinder-acquisition-rounds/ top missile is the acqui round! Selwyn Edited April 2, 2016 by Selwyn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Do these help? Note the pink bands Selwyn mentions. Even though I took this pic I never noticed them before! Check out our walkarounds section, you never know what is there. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/71270-panavia-tornado-gr1-gr4/ Julien 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armored76 Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 These certainly help. Thank you, Julien! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobski Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Hmmm... these don't seem to be included with the kit or at least I'm not able to identify them on the sprues shown here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234993811-tornado-gr4-148/ Are there any aftermarket parts for these? Also, to get back to the cockpit, is there a suitable resin replacement for the Gr.4? The launchers are in the Revell 1/48 GR4, as are some (rather poor) AIM-9s. There is no resin GR4 cockpit as far as I am aware, however for the GR4 in the 2008 timeframe the kit's cockpit should be pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armored76 Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Thanks, Bobski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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