DDELK Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Seen a lot of A-4s landing here this morning. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom726 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Most likely A-4s from Draken International (http://drakenintl.com/). They operate a rather impressive fleet of first and second generation Scooters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDELK Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 It's kind of like seeing a old car driving down the road that you haven't seen in awhile. Not to mention I just finished a commission build of an OA-4M 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Wish I say any A4s landing anywhere. Consider yourself lucky. Edited April 1, 2016 by noelh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 BAE systems and Advanced Training Systems International also operate Sky Hawks. Though I think the BAE ones are not in the US? Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Definately A-4's from Draken International. There were 8 of them at Nellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieNZ Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Some of the Draken ones are ex-RNZAF A-4K Skyhawks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Every once in a while, I see an all-white one doing circuits at Flagstaff Airport - my workplace is under finals. Had an argument with an ex-Navy colleague who swore it was an F-16... Still, I do wonder who it belongs to and why exactly they are doing circuits and bumps here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDELK Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 It seems like these civilian contractors are here to stay. I think they provide a great service to our military here in the US. I really like the F-21s that ATAC operates. If they are still st Nellis over the next couple of days, I will try and get some photos of them and post them for all to enjoy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Not sure if the White one might be BAE. They were white with a Blue strip. Seen Draken ones which are Black and Grey, while ATSI ones seem to have a two tone grey scheme once refurbished. ATSI are using ex Israeli aircraft. While Draken have some ex RNZAF ones. There also seems to be a company called Discovery Air Defence Services which operate A-4Ns. Doubt these were at Nellis though. Seems to be lots of old Scooters about. Seems they were built well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjiml2 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 The North American contract A-4s tend to break down into two groups these days: Draken has some ex-RNZAF aircraft still wearing their former green camo, some ex-IAF A-4s which Draken appear to have painted green to match their ex-RNZAF birds (I think some are ex-ASTI and some ex-BAE), and had a couple of birds leased from A-4L, LLC. The black and white cow scheme A-4s are the A-4L, LLC aircraft. Discovery Air/Top Aces bought some of the ex-ATSI aircraft. They have some grey schemes and a really natty blue/grey scheme. (Google C-FGZS.) It is neat to see that they all carry Canadian flags on their tails. Most of these airplanes are doing a contract in Germany that was formerly serviced by BAE. ATSI is long defunct. ATAC was operating some A-4s, but I think they use Hunters and Kfirs now. There are a couple of warbirds and one or two private TA-4s, including one based locally at Boeing Field that I see out and about sometimes. No idea on the ID of your local plane Paul, but being some of the airplanes A-4s were at Mesa, and there is an A-4 restoration shop at Marana, it is possible it is someone out burning some gas. Before they got the sow scheme the A-4L, LLC birds were light grey/white and a few were restored at Marana, so it could be one of those. Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Cheers, Jim - I'll have to do some further investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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