John R Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) I have just started one of these and already finding mis-labelled and mis-fitting parts. Anybody having fun like this and are there any more problems awaiting me? Edited February 25, 2016 by John R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 Now reached the stage of fitting things into the fuselage. Be warned - the fuselage halves fit together well but nothing else does! If you can nail a jelly to the ceiling you might get by. If you start one of these check where everything goes before applying any glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I've just buttoned up the fuselage - with great difficulty I had to shave off a lot of the cockpit side panels - and fettle with the lower engine jetpipe - even so there are large gaps on the underside. The two nose radomes are mis-identified, I think - as are the two jetpipes !!! - the longer one is the front one. I had to mount the rear (longer, incorrect) jetpipe further forward in the fuselage - otherwise it sticks out at the back end and the fuselage won't close up. It is now smothered in filler while I go for a lie down........... Ken PS - For those who haven't got the kit - you have to fit, from front to rear, a five-part intake assembly, the front undercarriage bay, a multi-part cockpit assembly, a three-part front jetpipe - with a pen knib fairing, the main wheel bays (made up from four parts) and a three-part rear jetpipe plus ill-fitting bulkhead. All that into one fuselage half - then you have to attempt to fit the other fuselage half I will not be beaten though.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 Been there done that! Your findings agree with mine. Regarding the intake assembly you are invited to fit it together before fitting it into the fuselage. However, based on a quick tacking together and experience of fitting other bits together, I felt that it would be better to assemble the bits in situ and this, though far from easy, seemed to pay off as the centre (top) bit needed trimming. Innards fitted Fuselage after joining. Some filler required beneath the nose, the underside rear does not match very well and the pen nib fairing needs blending in but globs of filler do not seem to be required 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I see you numbered the parts in pencil - same as I did and a wise move. I also note that you got the right jetpipe in the right location - unlike mine My fuselage is together and the wings are just setting. I don't like the way that the wings, tailplanes and fin all have inserts - with a join line that has to be filled. It makes for a thin trailing edge - but each insert has to be reduced in thickness to fit - and the seam is right across the aileron/elevator/rudder !!! And.... I think the wing fences are incorrectly numbered on the instruction sheet. Apart from that ...... it's a great kit Ken PS - Unusually the canopy fits perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 I don't like the way that the wings, tailplanes and fin all have inserts - with a join line that has to be filled. It makes for a thin trailing edge - but each insert has to be reduced in thickness to fit - and the seam is right across the aileron/elevator/rudder !!! Brilliant piece of design And.... I think the wing fences are incorrectly numbered on the instruction sheet. You are now ahead of me. Sounds about par for the course You have not mentioned noseweight. I just bunged in a whole load behind the panel holding the intake bullet for the forward engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 You have not mentioned noseweight. I just bunged in a whole load behind the panel holding the intake bullet for the forward engine. Same here - just in case ! Do you mind if I post some of my photos here?? - sort of parallel build...... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Thanks guys for thoughts and photos. It doesn't put me off- it's just such a cool aircraft... Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Ken, Feel free - it seems to be turning into a WIP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Once I'm back from the hospital, (I'm going for 2 weeks, on Monday) I will be doing mine so any help/photos will be grateful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 OK - here goes...... All the internals fitted inside the stbd fuselage half - the jetpipes are fitted as per the instructions - but are the wrong way round! I have since removed the rear jetpipe and mounted it further forward - so it doesn't protrude beyond the fuselage opening. Avis provide a fully detailed cockpit - and a complex intake/trunking assembly - closing up the fuselage halves was problematic. Wings attached (joints need filling) - note the filler on the jetpipe gap - and where the inserts are on the lower wings and tailplanes. Same for the fin insert on the port side.....the join is right across the rudder! More photos of the sprue parts here. The canopy and tailplanes are now attached - just needs the wing fences and ventral strake before a coat of primer. Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Blimey! - wot you having done Radders ??? See you at Cosford perhaps ??? Once I'm back from the hospital, (I'm going for 2 weeks, on Monday) I will be doing mine so any help/photos will be grateful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Two weeks intense physiotherapy, but last week I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, so I'm not sure how much this two weeks is going to do, but I'm still going on it... Been 'on the list' for months... I'm at Cosford, it's my local...., hopefully see you there mate Oh and the La-200 looks great, really can't wait to get mine done! Will check back for more photos.... Edited April 2, 2016 by Radleigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Interesting thing about the seats. I tried to fit mine at a late stage after assembling the fuselage and they did not fit although Ken's picture shows his were OK. However he did say that he had to trim the cockpit sides to get the fuselage halves to close so maybe his cockpit was a bit wider. One item to watch out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 You guys seem to have a fight on your hands with those kits but it looks like you are both getting the upper hand. Unusual subject so it'll be worth the effort. Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 My seats wouldn't fit either - I wondered if I had glued on the side panels wrong. I had to do some trimming to get them fitted - they are a VERY tight fit. Ken PS - Mine is all buttoned up, the canopy is attached and it has a coat of grey primer (which revealed some gaps that need filling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Pics....... tempted to bring mine back next week and get started earlier than I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 PS - Mine is all buttoned up, the canopy is attached and it has a coat of grey primer (which revealed some gaps that need filling). Snap! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hello КОМЯАДЕS! Heяe enlиsт иn Яeд Aяmy?Tнeяe иs my conтяивuтиon: SPASIBO TOVAЯИSH! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) After assembling those seats you may find they are too wide to fit the cockpit. Mine so far Edited April 13, 2016 by John R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I brought mine back with me for my second week in hospital, something to pass the evenings. I'm not building the whole thing, just little bits, I will paint the bits needed when back home and carry on assembling from the weekend onwards.. I will also upload some pics Friday, but it looks like I'm a lucky one. Dry fitted all the internals bar the exhaust pipes and it closes up nicely, nothing has been sanded to make it fit. Will post pics Friday though as said. Not made the seats, so I'm guessing they will cause issues fitting into that snug cockpit! Looking good chaps too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) John, unification has played a dirty trick with AVIS, proceeding from the available photos, the transition form from a drop tank to a wing of La-200 with Thorium, differs from La-200 with the Korshun! It doesn't mean that theoretically La-200 with the Korshun couldn't bear the same tanks that were at La-200 with Thorium. B.R. Serge Edited April 13, 2016 by Aardvark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) ****! Thank you Aardvark - I have that picture and a drawing that shows that configuration but I did not notice. A quick check with the drawing seems to show that the tanks are about the right length but without the correct mountings. It also showed that I had them too far outboard - the kit instructions were vague about this. I have managed to remove them without doing too much damage. Whether I will be able to replace them neatly is another matter - watch this space Edited April 14, 2016 by John R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Now that I have finsihed my HMS Spartan model, I'm back building mine. Nearly there.... (Halfords Aluminium with a top coat of Games Workshot 'Purity Seal' satin varnish)... Still needs the underwing stars.... Now to tackle the undercarriage - which is levered-suspension trailing arm AND angled outwards from the fuselage. To get this orientation, Avis make each leg in 3 parts - making for a very weak assembly - with very short axles and mounting lugs at the top.... The front U/C has a leg with a separate fork - making another weak joint. It's going to be a nightmare getting it all set up - and strong enough to support the weight. Ho-hum.... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Aaah! The u/c. I'm not looking forward to that. It did look a bit of a nightmare and flimsy with it. What are you going to do about the drop tanks now we have found out that they are incorrect? I am in the process of reshaping the mountings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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