sean Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 This week in one of our local papers, there is an article about an exhibit in the local museum regarding some of the local people who took part in WWII in some way. One of these people is Charles Malachi Murray, who was born in Acton, Co Armagh, which is 5 or 6 miles from me. He served as a Flight Engineer in AS-S, when it was lost during a raid to Stettin,(Szczecin) on the night of 29/30 of August 1944. All the crew sadly perished and are buried together in Poznan Collective War Graves. As he is the first R.A.F. aircrew from my area that I've known of, I'd like to model is Lancaster, using the Airfix or Revell kit, which ever is more suitable. While I have some limited knowledge of the aircraft, I have found no photos as yet, and would really like to find out if his plane carried any nose art, as a few 166 Sq. planes seemed to have at the time. I'm aware I'll have to buy separate decal sheets to make up the code and registration, but any other markings are not known to me at this time. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Regards, Sean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin 28 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 You have probably looked at this, but if not http://aircrewremembered.com/dunton-frederick.html Might also be worth registering on here checking this chap out. http://100548.activeboard.com/t47922570/166-squadron-raf-kirmington-help-available-to-researchers/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hi Merlin, been through both and have them bookmarked as well. Would recommend the second link, the information on it is pretty vast. Thanks anyway, Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarage Vee Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hello Sean, I'm sure that you already have consulted these too, but in case anyone is looking to carry out a similar search: http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?1-General-Category Is also a good place to ask, And the Squadron Association via: http://home.cogeco.ca/~dswallow4/ A book to look out for when free from Amazon autopricing! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wings-War-History-166-Squadron/dp/0952847604 And you could also ask about/go look at any photos the RAF Museum hold of 166 Squadron Lancasters [email protected] http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/visit-our-reading-room.aspx And if you can't find the answer after all those then you are free to represent it however you choose because the chances are no one will ever be able to prove you wrong! All the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Cheers V.V, the top two links I've been through, although I never thought of contacting the museum. A free book? I'll look out for that, many thanks, Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I will get back to you as Kirmington is just down the road from me . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Cheers V.V, the top two links I've been through, although I never thought of contacting the museum. A free book? I'll look out for that, many thanks, Sean Unless Amazon has been hacked BIG time, the 166 book is only GBP600 (yes, SIX HUNDRED POUNDS STERLING) in paperback form, top price almost GBP1,000 (ALMOST ONE THOUSAND POUNDS STERLING). I exited the site VERY carefully! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 http://www.lancasterbombers.net/BomberCommandHistoryForum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=117&start=20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Cheers Manc, much appreciated, Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) I will get back to you as Kirmington is just down the road from me . . . PD261 of 166 Squadron based at RAF Station Kirmington was coded AS-S. The aircraft was on 'Squadron Strength' in early August 1944 and sadly was lost at the end of the month, (29/30th August) I cannot say for sure without the Squadron ORB's but aircraft was likely to have flown around 15 Ops, (based on the number of operations flown by another 1 Group Squadron close by to Kirmington). Aircraft spec is likely to be as follows Starboard cockpit blister only No fuselage windows Standard B/a nose blister H2s carried Revised pitot position Window chute Guess at paddle blade props Rebecca aerials Below is the style of the letter 'S' seen on kirmington Lancs, more square than rounded on the 'S' Hope this helps ian Edited March 9, 2016 by Mancunian airman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Thanks Ian, again, much appreciated. Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 B.III ND635/AS*M had the inscription "Fransdens.Frolics" under the drivers sliding window with ops.tally about level with the de-icer spray. B.I LM289/AS*Y didn't carry nose art of any type B.III PB153/AS*O does,but is too far distant in the photograph to make it out. Certainly LM289 and PB153 seem to sport needle bladed propellers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) I have that photo (Lancaster at War book), Its going to be extremely difficult to find an actual photo of the aircraft concerned never mind the (if any) nose artwork although one may well imagine a tally of bomb symbols being displayed. I have seen a photo in a book of AS-T taken in August '44 flying on a daylight Op. which does give some pointers as to the spec. Edited March 10, 2016 by Mancunian airman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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