Nigel Bunker Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A question for our French colleagues. Dassault produced: Mirage III Mirage IV So why Mirage 5 and not Mirage V? Just one of those things that has been bugging me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) The mirage 5 was an export version of the iii and the mirage V was the mirage iiiv better know as the Balzac vtol experimental version Edited February 18, 2016 by PhantomBigStu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Earlier there were also Mirage I (prototype) and Mirage II (project). And later you have Mirage 50, 2000, 4000, F1, F2, G4 and G8. So in my opinion it's just the matter of replacing Roman numerals with Arabic ones in the early 60s - like in RAF aircraft just after the WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Earlier there were also Mirage I (prototype) and Mirage II (project). And later you have Mirage 50, 2000, 4000, F1, F2, G4 and G8. So in my opinion it's just the matter of replacing Roman numerals with Arabic ones in the early 60s - like in RAF aircraft just after the WW2. PhantomBigStu is right: the 5 was to avoid confusion with the Mirage III V (for Vertical). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) The mirage 5 was an export version of the iii and the mirage V was the mirage iiiv better know as the Balzac vtol experimental version Balzac and Mirage III V are two totally different aircraft. Balzac was a small (43 ft long, 24 ft wide, 7 ton MTOW), Orpheus-powered subsonic testbed, while Mirage III V was a quite large (59 ft long, 29 ft wide, 12 ton MTOW), P&W TF30-powered Mach2 fighter prototype. The difference is something like the MiG-21PD and MiG-23PD or Northrop F-5 and F/A-18 Hornet. PhantomBigStu is right: the 5 was to avoid confusion with the Mirage III V (for Vertical). Of course I can't say that PhantomBigStu isn't right Nevertheless why there isn't Mirage F II ? To avoid confusion with the 1919 Fokker airliner ? Since 1965 all the Dassault aircraft (Mirage, Falcon...) feature Arabic numerals, while earlier ones (Mystere, Etendard...) used Roman ones. Even the (later) well-known Falcon 20 biz-jet appeared for the 1st time in 1963 as the Mystere XX, becoming Mystere 20 two years later. http://www.avionslegendaires.net/avion-militaire/dassault-mystere-xx-falcon-20/ Edited February 20, 2016 by KRK4m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 How difficult would it to backdate an 1/72 Italeri Kfir to an Mirage III? There aint that many Mirage III out on the market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 How difficult would it to backdate an 1/72 Italeri Kfir to an Mirage III? There aint that many Mirage III out on the market... Not easy at all: Modify the wing (at least if starting from the Kfir box, the F-21 has the same wing), longer rear fuselage, different lower fuselage, remove the large intake ahead of the fin, modify the radome area... Then there are plenty of smaller details like wheels and exhaust. Can be done and I've seen it done but it's hard work. Personally I'd rather look for the RV kit online or the HiPlanes one. Modelsvit have also announced a new Mirage III in this scale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) How difficult would it to backdate an 1/72 Italeri Kfir to an Mirage III? There aint that many Mirage III out on the market... As Giorgio's written it seems an awful lot of work. You'd be better off trying to get a hold of the HighPlanes/PJ Productions or the RV Aircraft kits. The former are a bit heavy on the panel lines, whilst the latter are limited run. Mike. Edited February 21, 2016 by MikeR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Having the older Revell kit with nose and other parts it not seems more difficult converting the Kfir than converting an Airfix/Revell/Hasegava J 35 Draken kits for som other/correct variants. I wouldn't say it is hardwork... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I have the RV Mirage IIIC kit in the stash. Got it from Hannants and it looks very nice. They have a IIIE on the way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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