Selwyn Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 28 jets for kuwait http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/11859607/Boost-for-BAE-as-Kuwait-orders-Typhoon-fighters.html Selwyn 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinbear Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Another country buying the Typhoon is unquestionably good news. However, I'm sure I read somewhere a while ago that the 28 jets will come from part of the original Euro consortium order as each country has opted to reduce the number purchased rather than 28 additional aircraft being built. Can anybody shed more light on this please or am I barking up the wrong tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Good news for the workers at BAe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Another country buying the Typhoon is unquestionably good news. However, I'm sure I read somewhere a while ago that the 28 jets will come from part of the original Euro consortium order as each country has opted to reduce the number purchased rather than 28 additional aircraft being built. Can anybody shed more light on this please or am I barking up the wrong tree? Not sure about where the original programme plans were changed but there are 28 more jets being built keeping Warton occupied beyond the 2018 Shutdown if no more orders were placed,according to that article. UAE might now be back to the table for 60 too. Edited February 1, 2016 by bzn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 This is great news. It would be most excellent if it did lead to the UAE re-opening negotiations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magwitch Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Another country buying the Typhoon is unquestionably good news. However, I'm sure I read somewhere a while ago that the 28 jets will come from part of the original Euro consortium order as each country has opted to reduce the number purchased rather than 28 additional aircraft being built. Can anybody shed more light on this please or am I barking up the wrong tree? They are mostly from the Italian 3b tranche. The net gain for Eurofighter production is +3 two seaters. Canada (unlikely) or persuading the Saudis to buy more more (also unlikely) are the best hopes for continued Typhoon production beyond 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sounds like it may take a while longer: http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/mideast-africa/2016/02/01/anticipated-kuwaiti-deal-28-eurofighters-delayed/79657368/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Pulfrew Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Be nice if the Kuwaitis ask for a colour scheme something like their F/A-18s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinbear Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Sounds like it may take a while longer: http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/mideast-africa/2016/02/01/anticipated-kuwaiti-deal-28-eurofighters-delayed/79657368/ What I found interesting in this article is Kuwait's desire to use the Typhoon in an anti-shipping role. I don't think we've had that capability since the Sea Eagle was taken out of service. If it can be made to work for the Kuwaitis then perhaps the RAF will be able to adapt its Typhoons to deploy the same capability. I'm sure it won't happen but it's good to dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormodeller Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Great, more $$$ for Bae. Hopefully we create a two seater version like the Mirage 2000D, how ever unlikely that would be, it would look good, UI'm sure of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Foster60 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 From various articles I have read the Saudi's are after up to 200 aircraft. (another 130) I am not sure but the RAF and Luftwaffe have not ordered their full quota yet or have they been cancelled? Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich G Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I think it's good news for BAe, I also think that if the Kuwaiti's are able to use it in an anti-shipping role then I'm sure the Luftwaffe and RAF may very well look to add that capability to their fleets. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 From various articles I have read the Saudi's are after up to 200 aircraft. (another 130) I am not sure but the RAF and Luftwaffe have not ordered their full quota yet or have they been cancelled? Nigel The RAF were due to retire their Tranche 1 Typhoons but will now retain them for AI to hunt Bear from a base in Scotland, so maybe part of our outstanding orders will remain paper planes? Weren't Oman pencilled in for some? Latest AFM reports on the Saudi Typhoons and predicts two more batches of 70+ to cope with Tornado retirements and force expansion but speculates that a drop in oil prices may put this in doubt. Not heard of Canada being interested. Any more details? Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) The RAF were due to retire their Tranche 1 Typhoons but will now retain them for AI to hunt Bear from a base in Scotland, so maybe part of our outstanding orders will remain paper planes? Weren't Oman pencilled in for some? Latest AFM reports on the Saudi Typhoons and predicts two more batches of 70+ to cope with Tornado retirements and force expansion but speculates that a drop in oil prices may put this in doubt. Not heard of Canada being interested. Any more details? Trevor I think I read that Canada had pulled out of - or was considering pulling out of the JSF/F-35 project on grounds of cost and technical issues. Presumably it will want to replace its CF-188s at some point. Edited February 9, 2016 by Meatbox8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just read on another post here that Norway is also considering pulling out of JSF for similar reasons to Canada, and a bigger order as well. I think a Typhoon would look great in either Canadian or Norwegian markings! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 As much as I like Typhoon, would the Gripen not be a better replacement for the F-16 in Norway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 As much as I like Typhoon, would the Gripen not be a better replacement for the F-16 in Norway? That would make sense. But as I discovered whilst living in Sweden, the other Scandinavian countries really do not like Sweden. I think Karl XII was to blame... Christian, exil till Afrika och nu troligen Sverige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_B Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just read on another post here that Norway is also considering pulling out of JSF for similar reasons to Canada, and a bigger order as well. I think a Typhoon would look great in either Canadian or Norwegian markings! Canada's issue was with the requirement and selection process or rather the lack of, they are now in limbo and looking at what's on the table and it still does include the F-35 as a contender. I think Canada's investment and involvement with the F-35 development is still valid, so their companies are still involved but that may be reviewed if the type is not selected. I doubt Norway is getting itchy feet as they upped their order, unless the oil price downturn is having a knock on effect with their spending power ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Canada's issue was with the requirement and selection process or rather the lack of, they are now in limbo and looking at what's on the table and it still does include the F-35 as a contender. I think Canada's investment and involvement with the F-35 development is still valid, so their companies are still involved but that may be reviewed if the type is not selected. I doubt Norway is getting itchy feet as they upped their order, unless the oil price downturn is having a knock on effect with their spending power ! I thought I read somewhere that Trudeau had said Canada was pulling out of F-35. Seems that the initial US order has been cut by 20 airframes with some fearing this will drive up unit price even more. Typhoons must be getting cheaper with these extra orders so.... Pipe dreams no doubt. That would make sense. But as I discovered whilst living in Sweden, the other Scandinavian countries really do not like Sweden. I think Karl XII was to blame... Christian, exil till Afrika och nu troligen Sverige They seem to get on alright in 'Broen'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 They seem to get on alright in 'Broen'. On the surface they do, but dig a little deeper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 On the surface they do, but dig a little deeper... I'm surprised by that. I thought everything was groovy in that part of the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magwitch Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I thought I read somewhere that Trudeau had said Canada was pulling out of F-35. Seems that the initial US order has been cut by 20 airframes with some fearing this will drive up unit price even more. Typhoons must be getting cheaper with these extra orders so.... Pipe dreams no doubt. The Kuwaitis paid about $140m per a/c for Typhoon and the LRIP fly away price of an F-35A is $98m so it's not going to win in Canada on price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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